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Canadian Owners: cold weather range?

Well, the first Canadian Bolts were sold last week, at least in Ontario.

So for those proud new Bolt owners, what has been your cold weather range experience so far?
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Quebec too. Maybe B.C. too? Although they've been too snowed in, to get it out of the driveway..
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Quebec too. Maybe B.C. too? Although they've been too snowed in, to get it out of the driveway..
I'm guessing that most of the potential Bolt owners in BC live in the Lower Mainland like I do, and despite all the snow we've been getting it really isn't all that cold here. The lowest overnight temps I've seen are around -5C, and daytime temperatures are almost always above freezing.

There are plenty of places in the US that are colder than that.
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Here's a guesstimate of what you'd have gotten if you drove your Bolt within the Toronto region during January, 2017
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See this current thread, where Boltar of Oregon is getting winter range of 133 miles (214 km).
http://www.chevybolt.org/forum/9-2017-chevy-bolt-ev-general-discussion-forum/6962-what-s-your-estimated-range-133-max-me.html

Given: January in Toronto was +2C warmer than average with very little snow:
January 2017 average actual temperature Toronto Pearson Int'l: -2C (28.4F)
January 2017 average actual temperature Hood River, OR: 0C (32F)
Some individual variables and directional effect: Toronto Range Better or Worse:
Temperature: Toronto Worse
Snow Tires /or Snow: Toronto Better (I don't use snow tires)
Heated Seats and Steering Wheel: assume no difference
Highway Cruising, Sport Mode: Toronto Much Better (slower speeds due congestion, more regen mode)
Topography: Toronto Better (gentle little knolls versus mountain range)
Other: Wind / Road Surface / etc.: assume no difference (OR wind and Toronto potholes, offset one another)


Summary wild guess: 133 mi (214 km) + 15% = 153 mi (246 km)
Look reasonable ? That would be my situation. If you live well north of Toronto, need winters and are commuting: youíre probably closer to Boltarís 133 club.
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133 miles is not bad from Boltar considering the Bolt is in a old climate with snow tires and it's always in Sport mode with heated seats and steering wheel on. Just don't use Sport mode and you'll see a bit of an increase.
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don't use Sport mode
For sure. With properly inflated tires the tendency to spin the front wheels/tires is greater on cold pavement. On slippery cold pavement, even worse.

Sometimes I deliberately (when safe to do so) stand on the brake pedal at slow speed on an unpopulated icy road surface, just to feel the effect and hear that the ABS is alive and well.

I wonder about regen braking on slippery surfaces and how it might interface with ABS. I guess Iíll find out.
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The winter tires alone are costing 10% in range over the stock LRR tires.
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On the bright side, it's only for a few months out of the year where the range is reduced that much and it's not too bad considering how much range the Bolt comes with. Could be worse in a Volt or a Leaf in the winter.
@Cehjun I'm guessing you'll test out regen and ABS on an empty bit of road or parking lot. Let us know your findings, I'm curious as well.
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I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum wondering how long we can hold a wheel spin for...
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@Cehjun I'm guessing you'll test out regen and ABS on an empty bit of road or parking lot. Let us know your findings, I'm curious as well.
Forgot to mention traction control.

The ownerís manual doesnít indicate what happens when youíre moseying along in L minding your own business and you see brake lights ahead. You back off the pedal and perhaps grab the regen paddle in order to provide a lot of space (youíre alone and can withstand the negative Gís) and hey grab those extry kwís from regen . But in coming under a bridge at the same time as you do this, you didnít notice the black ice you just came into. Whaaaa. Then you glance in your rearview camera, that the guy who was way behind you when all this started is gonna bang into you, so you hit the accelerator and hope that traction control kicks in. Could be a situation of pure involuntary one-pedal driving as your brain wonít work fast enough to tell your foot to hit the brake pedal. Will be interesting.

Back to topic: Iím assuming the reason that none of the few Cdns presently with Bolts have posted their range yet: no free time left ?.. all used up reading the manuals trying to figure it out ?
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