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Here is my experience on a trip from my home in North Arkansas to Chicago.

First leg of trip was 217.8 miles at the speed limit (half 55 mph, half 65 mph) on a non-highway route with temperatures in the high 60’s / low 70’s, with horrible elevation changes starting at 200 feet above sea level, climbing to 1000 feet, and then back down to 500 feet. Look at the pic and you will see it looks like a seismograph! I had a slight tail wind for the trip, and the last hour this section of the trip was in the rain.



I arrived with 19 miles of range and 2 orange bars left and an average of 4.1 miles per kWh. Looking at the main display I used 53 kWh over 217.9 miles for 4.111 miles per kWh. I stopped at a 100 amp EVgo station just south of St. Louis (Festus MO) and charged for 34 min gaining 19 kWh at a cost of $7.51, just enough to get me to my next charging station north of St Louis in Edwardsville IL 55 miles away. Charge cost was $0.39 per kWh.

The second section of the trip was around 55 mph and a net zero elevation change, but still hilly terrain and still raining off and on. I arrived having used another 13.4 kWh after driving 54.1 miles (4.0 miles per kWh). I was planning on about a 90% charge here for the next stage of my trip, but the charging station was having issues, and my backup station a mile away was completely out of service. I was able to gain 10.42 kWh in 19 min ($3.24) before the unit tripped off. I re-started the charge, and this time gained 2.94 kWh in 7 min ($1.08). I tried again and got 3.54 kWh in 7 min ($1.08). I kept trying a few more times for .59 kWh in 2 min ($0.18) and a couple of failed attempts where no power was gained before the station shut down the CCS cord. This was all during a massive rain deluge, and it was very frustrating. Total power delivered was 17.49 kWh for $5.58 ($0.32 per kWh). I had to backtrack to my tertiary backup station, and since it was a backtrack I would have to get a full charge rather than 90% to get to my next stop. The tertiary backup was a backtrack of 17.8 miles and used 3.3 kWh (5.4 miles per kWh). If the faulty station had given me zero power, I still could have made it to my tertiary station on the power I had when I arrived at the station having troubles.

At my tertiary backup station (Shiloh MO), I had no troubles, I did my first 46 min session and gained 25.86 kWh ($8.10) and a second 46 min session gaining 12.57 kWh ($8.10) and then had to top off with a third session of 8 min gaining 1.1 kWh ($1.26). Total power delivered was 39.53 kWh for $17.46 ($0.44 per kWh). I had to do a full charge since my next station was 200 miles away.

My next planned stop was a Chevy dealership in Fairbury, IL. I called the day before my trip to verify that the CCS station (60 amp, 24 KW) was working, and that it would be left turned on so it would be available for me to use. I arrived to (of course) find the CCS station turned off!!! It was after hours, so nobody answered the phone, or was available to turn it back on. There is no CCS backup in this area, so I had to use a L2 station in Dwight IL 31.2 miles away, luckily there is a nice dinner just down the street from the L2 ChargePoint station. I arrived on the fumes that come off of an electron when it is lonely because all of its friends have gone away. I was so frustrated by this point that I failed to take down the data from my displays. I do know that I charged 11.88 kWh in 1 hour and 41 min for free. Elevation changes for this leg of the trip were from 550 feet up to 870 feet max, and then down to 650 for a net gain of 100 feet, but the peak in the middle is rough on overall efficiency.

The last leg of the trip was to my wife’s friends house in Crown Point, IN 68 miles away. Start at 650 feet elevation, peak of 800 feet, and back down to 700 feet for a net gain of 50 feet. Arrived tired, didn’t bother to plug into her 110V outlet in the garage since there is a 125 amp EVgo station 15 miles from the house.

Drove to the CCS station the next morning arriving with 3% battery remaining, and proceeded to talk with the head Volt / Bolt Engineer for over 2 hours while we each charged up Bolt EV’s.
Total trip length with detours and backtracks was 616.7 miles and used 136.1 kWh for a total efficiency of 4.5 miles per kWh. This matches what the trip meter said before I reset it. The charge station is at the Lincoln Oasis on the highway inbound to Chicago. The 1st charge session of 46 min was 33.85 kWh ($8.10). The second session of 47 min was 19.36 kWh ($8.28) and the third and final session (for data logs for my charge rate comparisons) of 41 min gained me 6.42 kWh ($7.20) total power delivered was 59.63 and cost $23.58 giving me an average of $0.39 per kWh.

Total energy used was 136.1 and total energy delivered at charging stations was 147.26 for an efficiency of 92.4% from the charging stations, and a cost of $54.13 ($0.37 per kWh)

We stayed several days, and on the last day I did a trip into Chicago in the Bolt to go to museums and go to millennium park to see the giant polished bean. I didn’t have time for a full charge, gaining around 12 kWh on 110V before leaving the next morning, so we ended up starting the trip on 85%.

The trip home I am not going to mention elevation changes other than it is the reverse of as described above with over all a net loss in altitude with many ups and downs, the weather was hot with no rain while driving, (started out in 80’s and rose into 90’s) with a head wind instead of a tail wind.

Since I would not be passing near the Chevy dealership during business hours I didn’t bother to try charging there, so our first charge was at the same ChargePoint L2 station in Dwight IL where we stayed for 3 hours and gained 20.97 kWh. We left with a 90% charge rather than wait another hour. As a consequence, despite the high temperatures we drove with climate control in fan only since I didn’t trust the EVgo station in Edwardsville to be working properly, so I needed enough charge reserve to reach the tertiary backup if needed.

After 4 hours of miserable hot driving, we arrived at the Edwardsville charging station and were able to charge for 27 min getting 14.87 kWh for $4.68 ($0.32 per kWh). That was the amount I wanted to charge, and I turned on the car to check the charging rate. When I turned on the car the charging station tripped off line.

We moved on to the next (and final) charging station. Since we were shooting the biggest gap back to our house in Arkansas we needed a full charge, so we had a pleasant picnic lunch while charging. First charging session was 47 min gaining 26.36 kWh for $10.47 ($0.40 per kWh) The second session of 47 min gained 23.62 kWh for $10.47 ($0.44 per kWh) third charge session was 46 min gaining 10.19 kWh for $10.24 ($1.00 per kWh) and a final session of 12 min gaining .67 kWh for $2.50 ($3.73 per kWh). Total kWh to go from 6% t0 100% was 60.84 kWh for $33.68 ($0.55 per kWh)

After that full charge, started the drive home. I chose to go 55 mph or the speed limit which ever was lower and run the air conditioning.



We arrived home with 27 miles left on the guess o meter, having driven 545 miles at 4.3 miles per kWh.

Total cost for the energy charged and cost for the trip home plus the trip into Chicago was around 145.7 kWh. Going by the % battery used for the trip into Chicago to calculate kWh used I came up with 20.4 kWh making the trip home itself take 125.3 kWh. Taking the 545 miles on the trip meter and dividing by the 4.3 miles per kWh efficiency gives 126.7, and that seems to be accurate from my other checks.

Anyway, the numbers are there if anyone wants to do more math for the trip home.

Over all the entire trip used 281.8 kWh costing me $92.49 for “fuel”. Over all that is about $0.33 per kWh. 1239.8 miles for $92.49 means 7.5 cents per mile. Even having two CCS charges to 100% (horrible $ per kWh ratio on a full charge) it was still cheaper to drive the Bolt EV than driving my fuel-efficient ICE car.

I am sick of typing at this point, so hope people like this post.

Later,

Keith
 

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I don't know who has more intestinal fortitude; you or @NewsCoulomb. You two laugh at 3% remaining charge, yawn at orange bars, and scoff at back-to-back-to-back down charging stations. My butt puckers when the GoM begins showing double digits.

To be candid, this is not a story I would share with a prospective non-Tesla, new-to-BEV buyer. Although you guys made the trip an adventure, how many hours did you spend dealing with, and waiting on charging during the round trip journey? I shared a story here where during Spring break 2017, I borrowed a Tesla X for a 550 mile R/T from Vegas to Los Angeles. Loved the X, totally hated the charging experience - even with 3 SC stations (4 now) on the route. After that, I decided long distance BEV travel wasn't for me...at least not at this time. Perhaps when I retire (which will likely be the day before I kick the bucket), and have a lot of time, I would consider such a venture. Or perhaps, in about a decade I think, when the public charging environment is no longer suspect.

I really envy the trip you were kind enough to share, I wish I had that kind of time.
 

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To be candid, this is not a story I would share with a prospective non-Tesla, new-to-BEV buyer.
Yup. One man's DCFC-hunting amusement is another one man's deal breaker as far using an EV for a long-haul trips. Cross-country driving is not for an average Tesla owner either, if they have a choice.

Kind of reminds me of an Ethiopian guy teaching me how to make proper coffee, starting with green, unroasted beans. If I were to make a bullet-pointed list of all the equipment needed, all the processes involved, all the intricate details that must be strictly observed, and the time/labor that goes into a "proper cup of coffee", that list - unedited - would be a perfect sales presentation for instant coffee.
 

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We did a very similar trip last October, and my wife will never do another. It was also a horror show. The idea that Americans are going to flock to EVs is a joke. Even with charging at home 99% of the time, many folks are so scattered that they will forget to plug in. We don't regret buying the Bolt for one minute, but you need a passionate reason to do it. Either your love the tech, hate the terrorists we indirectly support, or hope to slow climate change. None of these are on most people's radar.
 

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Congrats on the trip, Fivedoor, but the real kudos goes to your wife! I "might" tackle this kind of trip on my own, but to include the significant other would probably be a non-starter and I wouldn't even entertain the thought if we had to include our two kids. Hopefully, in the near future this trip will become more palatable with chargers everywhere!
 

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Great trip report thanks!
I am waiting for some more progress in Electrify America and/or EvGo networks. I could currently get from Houston to Austin or San Antonio, but not much further. Soon will be able to get to FL via EA along I-10.
FWIW, last week I chose to take my wife's Volt for a day trip to Austin. I could have used BMW/Chargepoint and/or EvGO to fuel return. I didn't necessarily want to take the hour to charge. Plus, the Volt had 80% full tank of 8-month old gas that probably needed to be spent (only filled 4 gallons upon return).
 

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Plus, the Volt had 80% full tank of 8-month old gas that probably needed to be spent (only filled 4 gallons upon return).
Perfect real-world, real-user example for the Case for PHEV.

8 Months of driving in All-E, (probably) absolute ZERO emissions for that time, and one 12 gallon petrol event for a long distance trip. No charging station acrobatics required. Then likely another 8 Months of Zero emissions.

How many miles driven on the Volt in All-E over the 8 Months? The HOU-AUS trip was about 350 miles R/T. Calculate the ratio of All-E vs petrol miles and I bet its over 99% in All-E.
 

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I don't know who has more intestinal fortitude; you or @NewsCoulomb.
NewsCoulomb would either not tell that story, or somehow make it seem like driving that trip in an EV vs ICE only added 10 minutes to the trip, since he wanted to have a 90 minute dinner anyway, and that the fast food drive through took 100 minutes to get through. :p

I don't know why some people think that just because EVs range from mildly inconvenient, to near disastrous for long trips, that they can't be championed for what they excel at; local transportation. Why hide the shortcomings of an EV when the strengths can more than justify them.

I'm with you on promoting PHEVs too. My Prius costs about 6 cents per mile in gasoline, and 2 cents per mile in electricity. My wimpy 3.x kWh battery that gives 14 miles of range still covers 30% of my driving miles. I imagine if I had the Volt it would be more like 65%.
 

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The idea that Americans are going to flock to EVs is a joke.
The real joke is that so many people think that a BEV must be perfect (or attractive, or even acceptable) for 90-100% of the drivers in the US - it just isn't (today). I think that somewhere between 10-40% of US (multi-car) households today could easily fit a 100-mile-range BEV into their daily routine. That's a good first step. 2 or 5 or 10 years from now we can try and get the percentage over 50%.
 

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I think that somewhere between 10-40% of US (multi-car) households today could easily fit a 100-mile-range BEV into their daily routine.
At any point in the history of the automobile, starting with the Lohner-Porsche at the turn of the 20th century, 100% of households could easily have used a hybrid. But hybrid sales peaked at 3.1% in 2013.

It isn't about what people could do, but what they will do.
 

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8 Months of driving in All-E, (probably) absolute ZERO emissions for that time, and one 12 gallon petrol event for a long distance trip. No charging station acrobatics required. Then likely another 8 Months of Zero emissions.
Seems to me like you're paying a lot in complexity and maintenance for a pretty rare use case. PHEVs are great for a lot of folks, but I'm not sure I'd want to buy one if the only reason I needed it was a once-a-year trip.
 

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Seems to me like you're paying a lot in complexity and maintenance for a pretty rare use case. PHEVs are great for a lot of folks, but I'm not sure I'd want to buy one if the only reason I needed it was a once-a-year trip.
You know this.
I know this.

But average consumers have a very hard time with this BEV concept. Without fail, once I say Bolt, or the Clarity is an "electric car, or plug-in hybrid electric car" - without exception - the first question out of their mouths is either; "what's the range?" or "how far will it go?"

I realized that was a Huge mistake quoting All-E range on the PHEV. Regardless of what I say after that (which is usually "...then the gas engine kicks in"), Eyes glaze and Everything goes downhill. Because that range figure is all they can see.

Once I started to respond to that question with "it goes as far as your car goes or even farther, only way, way cheaper", the response is "how is that possible, it's an electric car?". "No, it's a gas car just like yours, but it has a big battery that allows you to almost never pay for gas." I can't do that Jedi Mind trick with a pure BEV...without lying.

Baby steps.
 

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Seems to me like you're paying a lot in complexity and maintenance for a pretty rare use case. PHEVs are great for a lot of folks, but I'm not sure I'd want to buy one if the only reason I needed it was a once-a-year trip.
To respond to both Shotel and Sean -
My wife and I intentionally bought both the BEV Bolt and PHEV Volt so that we would have options for longer travel, but for most days use only electric.
In the 8 months between road trip from HOU-ABQ and my little jaunt from HOU-AUS last week, these are the approximate stats:
Electric miles - 4,000
Gas-powered miles - 60 (about 1.5% of miles)
My wife has about a 45 mile round-trip commute, and in 8 months managed to use only 20% of the gas tank.
Including 1 major and 1 mini roadtrip, the Volt is 67% electric. By the way, in gas mode, it operates like a true hybrid, with an MPG of about 39 in my real world driving.
I know that this forum has a lot of folks that think PHEV is an obstruction to a full BEV future. I understand that. But for us, this was a way to have two cars that on 99% of the days, needed to use ZERO gas. Very happy with our choice.
In the spirit of the host post - the point is that there is a future for EV. Currently, long trips in EV only, but there are limitations and it takes time. I am impressed that even paid EV charging continues to be less expensive than gas travel.
 

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Sometimes people act as if EVs need to replace all ICE cars on the road and do so today to be successful. In reality even in the best projections, EV adoption will rise steadily over many years before EVs overtake ICE vehicles. Even if we said that most people don't find EVs practical for long road trips, they could replace many people's second cars and a number of single-car households who either don't do long road trips or can do them given the constraints.

We are in the early days of DC fast charging. Much of the USA is a charging wasteland for non-Teslas. It's getting better, but for now you need some pioneer spirit to do many of the trips.

Hopefully in a year, the infrastructure will be better and road trips will be more practical. They may not rival ICE vehicles time wise, but we'll see.

For me, the real killer right now isn't so much the poor state of the charging infrastructure, because I see a path by which it is getting better, but the poor state of route planning. Just about none of the major charger maps have accurate information on charger kW or number of CCS chargers. That's vital for decent route planning and it's just not there. There is little reason for it to be as bad as it is right now, so I don't see a good path for it to get better.
 

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FWIW, I have an ICE Golf TDI (with the emissions fix) sitting in the garage as a second car. So I get to choose; I don't need to be a brave EV-roadtrip pioneer white knuckling it between failed charge stations. Faced with this choice, what have I actually done so far…?

Thus far, the TDI is barely driven (mostly when we need two cars at once which is rare).

On a road trip to a city 150 miles away I took the Bolt. It was an easy choice for the most part. I charged at my destination on the third day there. It was, however, more of a hassle than planned. The hotel I was staying in had a charger, but you needed to valet park to use it and I'm very reluctant to valet park (both price and various forms of mostly-irrational mistrust). I found another garage with ample charging capacity where I could park overnight, and it worked well, except that it charged based on time connected, so I actually returned after a few hours to unplug rather than pay for ten hours I didn't use.

But another vacation spot is 225 miles (direct) to 275 miles (backroads) away. I'd need to charge on the way, but probably not that long. Destination charging looks worse at my preferred location. I'm intrigued to see which way I'll jump when it comes to go back there, which might be later this year, or might be next year. I think my love of driving the Bolt will win out over the hassles, but I'm not 100% sure. I know I'll be risking recriminations if carefully made plans don't work out, and maybe I don't need the added stress. I am totally sure that in a year or two, it'll be a no brainer to take the Bolt, as will any similar length trip in my area.

Another vacation destination is 425 miles (direct), more via backroads. It'd be 6.5 hours in an ICE vehicle and realistically at least one stop of an hour for lunch or dinner. In the Bolt, we'd need to charge twice and so it'd add time and constraints to a journey that is already a slog. Frankly these days we already just fly.

(Some other vacation destinations are 5750 miles, 2750 miles, and 1000 miles. Those are all trips we'd fly.)

For me at least, there is a fairly narrow window of trips where DC fast charging comes into play. The journey has to be long enough to need it, but not so long that I don't want to drive it at all. But as I say, what I really want is more destination charging (which is relatively cheap to install) and better route planners with more accurate information and better ease of use.
 

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I saw something similar hooked up to a GM EV1 back when they were around. I would use one of those for long trips in a heartbeat if they were available here. A much better solution than a EREV.

Keith

I think you're remembering the Long Ranger. Below is a link to a photo of it being towed by a 2001 Toyota RAV4-EV. Being an early adopter of factory EVs, I find it hilarious when all of the "new" stuff surrounding EVs comes out. Little of it is "new".


With many thanks to Darell Dickey for maintaining his web site and our EV legacy.



http://www.evnut.com/rav_longranger.htm
 

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My ride from the dealer to home will be the same distance.It's 1050 miles on the fastest route but I plan some excursions,making the drive home more fun. Thanks for sharing yours. My new '18 Turbo Diesel Cruze easily gets 60 MPG on the interstate,so I'll probably keep it for long trips.
 
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