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I am new to this forum, but read all of the posts on Bolt road trips before making the trek from St. Paul, MN to Cleveland, OH and back last week. I bought my Bolt in April 2018, 2018 premium for around $36k before tax credit and traded in a 2017 Volt. Currently have almost 6k miles on it. Have reduced rate EV charging on a separate meter for around $.04 / kwh plus taxes. Also have a 8.4kwp solar array. Based on my learning from others, I downloaded the Plug Share app. I was hoping to do the trip on as many free chargers as possible.

Day 1 - started driving around 10:45am from St. Paul. Stopped in Sparta, WI, about 166 miles at the level 2 charger located at the library. We had about 65 miles estimated range left upon arrival. The charger was in use by a Ford PHEV. My kids and I wrote letter and left it on their windshield requesting they text or plug us in when they were done. About 15 min later, my app indicated we were charging. I had thought about slow charging with the standard cord, but realized the car did not come with one (maybe they took it for the Volt since I hadn't turned it in?). After 1.75 hours of charging and some games at the library, we decided we needed a break from level 2 and headed to the fast charger at the Chevy dealer in Ballweg, WI. After 30 min there, we had enough to make it to the Level 3 Charger in Madison operated by the electric company. I signed up for the study prior to the trip, so charging was $2.50 per hour. We were excited watching the miles go up rapidly and decided to get some dinner. 12 min later, a look at the app showed we were no longer charging due to an error. I ran back to the charger and could not get it working again. Frustrated, I decided just to go finish my dinner and we could try a different level 3 charger. When we got back, my 13 year old son had the magic touch and it started working again. We waited about an hour to get to around 85% charge. We were planning on stopping at the free level 3 charger in Northbrook, IL but since it closed at 10pm and we were delayed we would not make it. Our backup options were BMW in Schaumburg or the EVGo at the mall. Due to the faster speed of EVGo and amount of time already spent charging, we decided to make an account and EVgo. We charged for 29 min while my kids danced around the deserted parking lot at 11pm which gave us enough charge to get to our planned hotel. We stayed at the Inn at St. Mary's in South Bend, Indiana which had a level 2 charger. What would have been about 9 hours in a gas vehicle (probably a little longer due to accidents causing delays) was almost 15 hours in the Bolt. But we were determined.

Day 2: At hotel check out time 11am Eastern, we were not quite fully charged but ambitious to get to our destination for some time in Cleveland before Game 4 of NBA finals (purpose of the trip). We almost risked driving to the level 3 EVgo in Elryia , OH but it would have been cutting it too close so we stopped at Chevy in Sylvania, OH. There was another Bolt charging when we arrived, but luckily done so they were able to move it for us. We plugged in and went to lunch. Again about 15 min later, my app indicated we were no longer charging. My son ran back this time and unplugged and plugged back in successfully. We charged about an hour and headed to the level 2 charger in Rocky River, OH, arriving around 5:30pm. We left the car there during the game and unfortunately, the power went around 11pm after store close so we did not get fully charged. Our hotel did not have a charger, but was close to Whole Foods.

Day 3: We originally planned to go back to Sylvania and then head for Chicago for a night there, but would not have made it without another stop at a level 2 charger so we came up with a new plan. We charged at the level 3 EVgo in Elryia for 30 minutes (1 spot was iced and a stranger came up to say noone ever uses the chargers) and then headed to the Chevy dealer in Fort Wayne, IN. I called ahead and they said service closed at 2pm, but sales was open later so we were able to charge past 2pm. We ended up charging almost 2 hours while getting lunch and taking a break. Luckily, there were no issues with charging here and everyone at Chevy was very nice. From there, we had enough to comfortably make it to Chicago where we took advantage of the free level 2 charging in Navy Pier ramp. We were already going to be parking there regardless, so that was a perk. There was 2 spots, one with a Tesla not charging so we were able to take the other. After a few hours there, we were back over 125 miles. Our hotel was in Bloomingdale IL and again had no charger.

Day 4: We stopped at the BMW Schaumburg for their free Level 3 charger and charged about 45 minutes. That got us to Madison Level 3. This time we went to their other location on Railroad St and walked to a local restaurant for lunch. We were going to need to make it 209 miles to Rochester (the preferred route taking 94 does not have chargers along the way, besides Eau Claire Nissan which would have been closed on Sunday) so we charged about 1 hour 45 minutes until we were at 97%. We made it to Rochester with 57 miles left. We charged at the La Quinta while going to the movie theater across the street. After the movie, we had enough charge to get back to St. Paul comfortably. This day would have been about 6 hours by car, and instead took us closer to 12 by the time we got home.

Overall, it was exhausting but we made it. With 2 EVgo sessions and 2 reduced rate level 3 in Madison, our total for 1650 miles was less than $40. We tried to make the most of our charging times by playing games, local attractions, getting some walking in, and going to the movies. However, our experience with failed charges multiple times made me constantly refreshing the chevy app to make sure we were still charging. I wish there were more of the fastest level 3 charging stations. The chevys were all between 18 & 25 kw and while that was an improvement over the level 2, we would have probably saved more than 20% in driving time had their been level 3 at 50kw along the entire route. Besides the first charger, we did not get ICED or unable to use a charger due to another charging the entire trip. It came close at the Whole Foods Rocky River where some spots were ICED, but went ok. We did learn that without the fast charging infrastructure, we found it easier to drive 60 and have a range of 260-280 then going faster and range dropping to 190. In my normal driving, I regularly average around 5 miles per kw with AC on. On this trip, we kept the AC off most of the time. Having chargers at all hotels we stayed at would have helped some, too. We did not get to 100% charge at all during the trip besides when we left home. It was definitely an adventure, and something I would consider doing again as the infrastructure improves. For now though, I think Duluth might be the farthest I go for a while!
 

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I am new to this forum, but read all of the posts on Bolt road trips before making the trek from St. Paul, MN to Cleveland, OH and back last week. I bought my Bolt in April 2018, 2018 premium for around $36k before tax credit and traded in a 2017 Volt. Currently have almost 6k miles on it. Have reduced rate EV charging on a separate meter for around $.04 / kwh plus taxes. Also have a 8.4kwp solar array. Based on my learning from others, I downloaded the Plug Share app. I was hoping to do the trip on as many free chargers as possible.

Day 1 - started driving around 10:45am from St. Paul. Stopped in Sparta, WI, about 166 miles at the level 2 charger located at the library. We had about 65 miles estimated range left upon arrival. The charger was in use by a Ford PHEV. My kids and I wrote letter and left it on their windshield requesting they text or plug us in when they were done. About 15 min later, my app indicated we were charging. I had thought about slow charging with the standard cord, but realized the car did not come with one (maybe they took it for the Volt since I hadn't turned it in?). After 1.75 hours of charging and some games at the library, we decided we needed a break from level 2 and headed to the fast charger at the Chevy dealer in Ballweg, WI. After 30 min there, we had enough to make it to the Level 3 Charger in Madison operated by the electric company. I signed up for the study prior to the trip, so charging was $2.50 per hour. We were excited watching the miles go up rapidly and decided to get some dinner. 12 min later, a look at the app showed we were no longer charging due to an error. I ran back to the charger and could not get it working again. Frustrated, I decided just to go finish my dinner and we could try a different level 3 charger. When we got back, my 13 year old son had the magic touch and it started working again. We waited about an hour to get to around 85% charge. We were planning on stopping at the free level 3 charger in Northbrook, IL but since it closed at 10pm and we were delayed we would not make it. Our backup options were BMW in Schaumburg or the EVGo at the mall. Due to the faster speed of EVGo and amount of time already spent charging, we decided to make an account and EVgo. We charged for 29 min while my kids danced around the deserted parking lot at 11pm which gave us enough charge to get to our planned hotel. We stayed at the Inn at St. Mary's in South Bend, Indiana which had a level 2 charger. What would have been about 9 hours in a gas vehicle (probably a little longer due to accidents causing delays) was almost 15 hours in the Bolt. But we were determined.

Day 2: At hotel check out time 11am Eastern, we were not quite fully charged but ambitious to get to our destination for some time in Cleveland before Game 4 of NBA finals (purpose of the trip). We almost risked driving to the level 3 EVgo in Elryia , OH but it would have been cutting it too close so we stopped at Chevy in Sylvania, OH. There was another Bolt charging when we arrived, but luckily done so they were able to move it for us. We plugged in and went to lunch. Again about 15 min later, my app indicated we were no longer charging. My son ran back this time and unplugged and plugged back in successfully. We charged about an hour and headed to the level 2 charger in Rocky River, OH, arriving around 5:30pm. We left the car there during the game and unfortunately, the power went around 11pm after store close so we did not get fully charged. Our hotel did not have a charger, but was close to Whole Foods.

Day 3: We originally planned to go back to Sylvania and then head for Chicago for a night there, but would not have made it without another stop at a level 2 charger so we came up with a new plan. We charged at the level 3 EVgo in Elryia for 30 minutes (1 spot was iced and a stranger came up to say noone ever uses the chargers) and then headed to the Chevy dealer in Fort Wayne, IN. I called ahead and they said service closed at 2pm, but sales was open later so we were able to charge past 2pm. We ended up charging almost 2 hours while getting lunch and taking a break. Luckily, there were no issues with charging here and everyone at Chevy was very nice. From there, we had enough to comfortably make it to Chicago where we took advantage of the free level 2 charging in Navy Pier ramp. We were already going to be parking there regardless, so that was a perk. There was 2 spots, one with a Tesla not charging so we were able to take the other. After a few hours there, we were back over 125 miles. Our hotel was in Bloomingdale IL and again had no charger.

Day 4: We stopped at the BMW Schaumburg for their free Level 3 charger and charged about 45 minutes. That got us to Madison Level 3. This time we went to their other location on Railroad St and walked to a local restaurant for lunch. We were going to need to make it 209 miles to Rochester (the preferred route taking 94 does not have chargers along the way, besides Eau Claire Nissan which would have been closed on Sunday) so we charged about 1 hour 45 minutes until we were at 97%. We made it to Rochester with 57 miles left. We charged at the La Quinta while going to the movie theater across the street. After the movie, we had enough charge to get back to St. Paul comfortably. This day would have been about 6 hours by car, and instead took us closer to 12 by the time we got home.

Overall, it was exhausting but we made it. With 2 EVgo sessions and 2 reduced rate level 3 in Madison, our total for 1650 miles was less than $40. We tried to make the most of our charging times by playing games, local attractions, getting some walking in, and going to the movies. However, our experience with failed charges multiple times made me constantly refreshing the chevy app to make sure we were still charging. I wish there were more of the fastest level 3 charging stations. The chevys were all between 18 & 25 kw and while that was an improvement over the level 2, we would have probably saved more than 20% in driving time had their been level 3 at 50kw along the entire route. Besides the first charger, we did not get ICED or unable to use a charger due to another charging the entire trip. It came close at the Whole Foods Rocky River where some spots were ICED, but went ok. We did learn that without the fast charging infrastructure, we found it easier to drive 60 and have a range of 260-280 then going faster and range dropping to 190. In my normal driving, I regularly average around 5 miles per kw with AC on. On this trip, we kept the AC off most of the time. Having chargers at all hotels we stayed at would have helped some, too. We did not get to 100% charge at all during the trip besides when we left home. It was definitely an adventure, and something I would consider doing again as the infrastructure improves. For now though, I think Duluth might be the farthest I go for a while!
While I admire your determination, if I have to drive anywhere that requires more than one L3 charge along the way I’ll be using a rental car instead. As your post indicates, charging on an extended road trip can be challenging, and very time consuming. While the Bolt is a very capable EV, charging infrastructure is decidedly still a work in progress in many areas of the country, and even a decent L3 charger takes quite a bit of time.
 

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Looks like quite a trip. I considered a similar trip in the opposite direction and a little further south through Columbus and Indianapolis. That would rely on a Fairbury IL dealer's L3 to get to Madison, and then hopefully having enough range to get to Custer WI then MSP. The plan was 5 stops (all L3) with one likely ending up as an overnight stay somewhere assuming at least one place would be broken! The Electrify America architecture can't get here soon enough.

As with you, it was a way easier trip with my 2014 Volt, but that was sold to make room for the new Bolt.

I enjoy reading these trip stories even months later, as they help provide a picture of the infrastructure available when they were done. We're definitely still in the pioneer stage.
 

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I am new to this forum, but read all of the posts on Bolt road trips before making the trek from St. Paul, MN to Cleveland, OH and back last week. [...] It was definitely an adventure, and something I would consider doing again as the infrastructure improves. For now though, I think Duluth might be the farthest I go for a while!
Thanks for the detailed post. I've had my Bolt for six about months and haven't dared take a trip as long as yours. It's always cool to hear about someone else's adventure.

Based on my learning from others, I downloaded the Plug Share app.
PlugShare is good, but ChargeHub and the trip planner in the myChevrolet app are also worth checking out.

I was hoping to do the trip on as many free chargers as possible.
Although some DC fast chargers make you pay through the nose, I'm not sure optimizing for cost is the best thing here. I'd aim to reduce agony as much as possible.


We did learn that without the fast charging infrastructure, we found it easier to drive 60 and have a range of 260-280 then going faster and range dropping to 190.
If you're in an area that only has Level-2 chargers, yes, you're better off driving slower. I look forward to Electrify America having its charging network built out.

In my normal driving, I regularly average around 5 miles per kw with AC on.
That seems pretty good. What kind of conditions (temperature, speed, number of stops)?
 

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Thanks for the detailed post. I've had my Bolt for six about months and haven't dared take a trip as long as yours. It's always cool to hear about someone else's adventure.



PlugShare is good, but ChargeHub and the trip planner in the myChevrolet app are also worth checking out.

I did peak at the mychevy app, but I don't know that I have seen Charge Hub . Will check it out.

Although some DC fast chargers make you pay through the nose, I'm not sure optimizing for cost is the best thing here. I'd aim to reduce agony as much as possible.

The fast chargers that cost more were all in areas where I had access to other charging stations for lower cost, even level 3. I would have definitely gone for the level 3s had they been available when I needed them!


If you're in an area that only has Level-2 chargers, yes, you're better off driving slower. I look forward to Electrify America having its charging network built out.



That seems pretty good. What kind of conditions (temperature, speed, number of stops)?
I drive around 50% highway 50% city. with AC on it is around 5mi / km, without AC, can get closer to 6mi/km without a ton of effort. I have been driving Prius and Volts since 2010 so I am very conscious of my driving performance. Outside temps in 70s and 80s generally. This will all go downhill when the, what seems like, 6 month winter starts end of October.
 

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Thanks for the detailed post. I've had my Bolt for six about months and haven't dared take a trip as long as yours. It's always cool to hear about someone else's adventure.



PlugShare is good, but ChargeHub and the trip planner in the myChevrolet app are also worth checking out.



Although some DC fast chargers make you pay through the nose, I'm not sure optimizing for cost is the best thing here. I'd aim to reduce agony as much as possible.




If you're in an area that only has Level-2 chargers, yes, you're better off driving slower. I look forward to Electrify America having its charging network built out.



That seems pretty good. What kind of conditions (temperature, speed, number of stops)?
Looks like quite a trip. I considered a similar trip in the opposite direction and a little further south through Columbus and Indianapolis. That would rely on a Fairbury IL dealer's L3 to get to Madison, and then hopefully having enough range to get to Custer WI then MSP. The plan was 5 stops (all L3) with one likely ending up as an overnight stay somewhere assuming at least one place would be broken! The Electrify America architecture can't get here soon enough.

As with you, it was a way easier trip with my 2014 Volt, but that was sold to make room for the new Bolt.

I enjoy reading these trip stories even months later, as they help provide a picture of the infrastructure available when they were done. We're definitely still in the pioneer stage.

I was envious of all the Level 3 chargers I spotted on the map in the Columbus / Indianapolis area, but it also looked so far away! I had thought about going north and charging at the level 3 in Steven's Point area (may be the same one you are thinking of?) , and looking back likely would have been the better choice. I thought my kids would appreciate charging spots where we were in a town, but all of their screens / phones/ Switches kept them busy enough.
 

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You are more adventurous than I am! 1600 miles - "Look, Ma. No spare!"

A 120 charger comes standard. Beneath the two rear cargo compartments is a third compartment with a foam container in which you should find a tow hitch and 120 charger.
If your Bolt is missing the 120v charger, go back to the dealership and demand that they give you one. When we got our second Bolt, the charger was missing from the trunk. I went back to the dealership and they pulled one from another Bolt on the lot.
 

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Day 2: At hotel check out time 11am Eastern, we were not quite fully charged but ambitious to get to our destination for some time in Cleveland before Game 4 of NBA finals (purpose of the trip).
Welcome to the Forum! Lucky you, we would've loved to catch that game as well. Unlike you, we weren't brave enough (and didn't really have the time) to drive from Maryland back to Cleveland in the Bolt for that. We used to drive from Cleveland to Detroit and back every week, but that was years before we bought the Bolt. I wonder what that kind of trip would've entailed with the Bolt. From your post, it sounds like there's quite a few chargers on the West Side available for use now.

Anyway, fantastic story. Thanks for sharing, and Go Cavs! :D
 

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...I downloaded the Plug Share app. I was hoping to do the trip on as many free chargers as possible.
You may change your mind when you discover that free chargers are almost always in use by people taking advantage of the free electricity. When I'm on a trip I'm very happy to pay to charge because it tends to eliminate the opportunists from hogging the stations and saves me a lot of waiting time. As they say, "time is money".
 

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You may change your mind when you discover that free chargers are almost always in use by people taking advantage of the free electricity. When I'm on a trip I'm very happy to pay to charge because it tends to eliminate the opportunists from hogging the stations and saves me a lot of waiting time. As they say, "time is money".
I've tried to mitigate this (being an opportunity-charger myself at times) by using PlugShare's "check in" option to signal to other users that I'll be using the spot for X amount of hours, and promptly move it out of the EV slot when X amount of time has elapsed. If the EV slot happens to have an available spot beside it, I latch on the "opportunity charging" hanger that came with my JuiceBox. It sort of looks like this:

http://www.takechargeandgo.com/tag/hanger-ev/

No one's taken advantage of this though, there are usually open spots every time I get back to the car. :eek:
 

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Thanks for sharing this odyssey; it reminds me of why I haven't hitchhiked in the past fifty years. A flashback when I hitchhiked and was proud of getting long distances for cheap; but slow, dangerous, inconvenient, unpredictable, at the mercy of the weather and the kindness of strangers. Today, we go long in an ICE, without concerns of range, charge points filled or not working properly, not being able to use climate control. There are good reasons I'm not likely to be hitching or using the EV for long trips.

Summary - twice the KWH, twice the charging rate, many times the number of DCFC's in service, and the Bolt is a practical interstate machine.
In the future, who knows? But today, EV long distance travel might be akin to skiing/white-water rafting/biking/hiking/climbing/rapelling/hitchhiking; OK for an adventure sport, but as a viable means of regularly traveling cross-country round trip, not so much.

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