It would have charged slightly faster if he charged from 5% to 66% (same amount gained) instead of 19% to 80%. Even with the improved slow taper vs the sharp step downs in charge rate in the pre-2020, the 2020's still charge faster at below 50% SOC than they do above 50% so the lower your SOC when you start charging, the faster it charges.
Oh I’m sure it charges a bit slower in colder weather. I live in Colorado Springs. Well see how it plays out this winter. All I’m saying, is I find the charging to be very reasonable.
That’s fair. I suppose a Tesla owner would scoff looking at our Bolts charging capability. I do drive very efficiently; I never exceed 65 mph, even on the highway. In the nearly 3k miles I’ve put on my Bolt, I’m averaging 4.5 miles per kWh. It’s more like an efficiency game to me, every time I take a drive.It would have charged slightly faster if he charged from 5% to 66% (same amount gained) instead of 19% to 80%. Even with the improved slow taper vs the sharp step downs in charge rate in the pre-2020, the 2020's still charge faster at below 50% SOC than they do above 50% so the lower your SOC when you start charging, the faster it charges.
To the OP:
To gain 179 miles on 61% charge gained (around 40ish KW) you must be getting 4.4 to 4.5 miles per kWh... you will not be getting that on a highway road trip. You will be getting somewhere between 3.1 and 3.5 miles per kWh depending on what speed you are running. So on a road trip that 49 min of charging would have given you between 125 and 140 miles of range. When your average Tesla driver gets fed up with how slow their Tesla is charging when it ramps down to our peak charging rate of 55 KW at 75% SOC and leaves, that shows the amount the Bolt is behind in the charging game. A Model 3 on a V3 Supercharger can gain 180 miles (EPA rated miles, closer to 155 miles at highway speeds) in 15 min vs the 2020 Bolt gaining 179 miles in 49 min when driving at very efficient speeds, or as stated above 140 miles max in real world highway driving...
In real world testing by MotorTrend, the model 3 on a V3 Supercharger can go from 5% to 90% in 46 min... a gain of aprox 220 miles (highway speed miles, 255 miles of EPA range) in 46 min. Looking at your charge, if you had started from a lower SOC you may have gained 180 miles in 45 min, but once again that is at very efficient driving speeds... still a half hour longer than the Tesla Model 3 for the same amount a range gained.
In the real world on the highway the Tesla 3 on V3 can gain aprox 155 miles in 15 min and the 2020 Bolt can gain at best 140 miles in 45 min. Hopefully this is resolved in the new BEV 3 cars.
Later,
Keith
PS: Not a Bolt hater, I road trip my 2017 Bolt cross country a few times a year... this is probably the reason I want faster charging
The expressways around where I live generally have 100 km/h (62 mph) speed limit. I tend to set the cruise control to that number, which is actually 95 km/h (59 mph) according to the GPS, and drive on the outermost lane. Most cars just pass by without a fuss.
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Agreed, in addition, if the rate is based on a default factory metric that just divides the kWh added, by the EPA estimate, it may be inaccurate. If recent efficiency values are not being used to calculate the true estimated miles of added charge then it's most likely optimistic, especially in a Tesla. If I charge my Model 3 to full prior to a road trip in the summer, or winter, it's always the same range number even though the delta T is 80F.
Yep, in real world terms you drive for 2 hours and charge for 45-50 minutes. I don't mind stopping and stretching my legs every 2 hours but a 45 minute stretch is excessive. You have to understand and accept the limitations of the Bolt if you're going to do a road trip. I don't mind doing that a few times a year because I like to drive my Bolt. My wife, not so much. She won't be satisfied until we can charge for 10 minutes and drive for 2 hours.
Lucky for me, my wife is fine with longer stops. Sometimes if we are doing a quick 25 min or less stop my wife will actually be the hold up, because after charging for 20 min is when she decides she needs to wander into Walmart to use the restroom... so we end up charging up to way past when I planned on leaving, and then arrive at the next stop high in the SOC range... <sigh>
That's exactly my dilemma. I'd hate to spend $50K on a car that causes me to compromise, only to find out a year or so later that something better is available.
You did the math for a 2017-2019, the OP has a 2020.
Start off full in the Model 3, drive 250 miles, take 15 min break gaining 130 miles of range on a V2 (not V3) supercharger. Drive another 130 miles, stop for meal break of 45 min... leave at end of meal with 80% SOC and drive the rest of the way to your destination with a restroom break at a rest stop... arrive at your destination with 80 miles to spare.
Again, the Model 3 LR comes close, but it's still lacking the same flexibility. Yes, with proper planning, I can make the trip in a similar amount of time as I spend in my Volt; however, in order to match the Volt's trip speed, I'd have to make more shorter stops. The biggest issues with the Model 3 are that I'd be very limited in terms stopping locations, routes, time spent stopped, and leg lengths.
