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GM could have worded the recall - never park indoors or outside where a fire could affect adjacent cars, infrastructure, or pose a wild fire risk. They didn’t say that. I get we all know they are making a guess at risk, just as we are. It’s a fact that they have more data than we do on the matter, and are therefore making a better educated guess than we can.
That is not possible. I could park at the end of the parking lot at the food store with no other cars next to me. When I am done shopping there may be a car on each side. - great example is costco.
The same could be true at a gaming event.
My prediction is nothing will happen until a BOLT parked in a parking garage, goes up in flames, sets the whole multi-level building on fire and many deaths occur due to smoke inhalation.
Then, NHTSA will force GM to pull the BOLTs off the road aka buyback or trade.
 

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That is not possible. I could park at the end of the parking lot at the food store with no other cars next to me. When I am done shopping there may be a car on each side. - great example is costco.
The same could be true at a gaming event.
My prediction is nothing will happen until a BOLT parked in a parking garage, goes up in flames, sets the whole multi-level building on fire and many deaths occur due to smoke inhalation.
Then, NHTSA will force GM to pull the BOLTs off the road aka buyback or trade.
I hope you are wrong, but I think you are right...
 

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Well if the problem is overheating, having the car outside will allow heat to dissipate faster than if it is in a garage. Which might keep it under the ignition temperature.

Thank you kindly.
You obviously don't live in Phoenix Arizona. Today's high was 107 and the sun was beating down, as usual. It is much cooler in the garage.
 

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You obviously don't live in Phoenix Arizona. Today's high was 107 and the sun was beating down, as usual. It is much cooler in the garage.
Yeap, same here, it was 95 degrees a couple of days ago until that tropical storm started messing around. It is surely cooler in the garage here.
 

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You obviously don't live in Phoenix Arizona. Today's high was 107 and the sun was beating down, as usual. It is much cooler in the garage.
I wish. It's gets as hot as outside and stays hot in my garage (converted carport). I'm getting an insulated door soon and going to install a thermostatically controlled circulating fan. For putting the wife's Tesla in there, of course.
 

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I wish. It's gets as hot as outside and stays hot in my garage (converted carport). I'm getting an insulated door soon and going to install a thermostatically controlled circulating fan. For putting the wife's Tesla in there, of course.
Shading helps a lot too.
 

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Floor managers in casinos watch the slots, and rows with unoccupied machines are often set to allow a better payout in the hopes that others will occupy the surrounding machines. as long as they stay within the overall parameters, they can actually choose which ones pay out.
Can you back that up with any sort of documentation? My understanding is that the Casino is NOT allowed to interfere with when or how slot machines pay out.
 

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You obviously don't live in Phoenix Arizona. Today's high was 107 and the sun was beating down, as usual. It is much cooler in the garage.
If the ignition temperature is somewhere around 350°F. The difference between 107° outside and even 80° inside is 10% of the difference between that and the ignition temperature. And if the battery is heating up to 350° that garage will heat fast, while outside that heat has plenty of places to go, and wind and convection will help take it away from the car.

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If the ignition temperature is somewhere around 350°F. The difference between 107° outside and even 80° inside is 10% of the difference between that and the ignition temperature. And if the battery is heating up to 350° that garage will heat fast, while outside that heat has plenty of places to go, and wind and convection will help take it away from the car.

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YOur article is awesome, but the BOLT battery has its own temp management system. Once the battery decides to shorts inside (torn anode, folded separator, swelling..ect.) it will start brewing within the sealed battery housing. Outside temp has not much to do with it. Once it starts venting gasses and flames, it's game over.
 

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I read most of the posts here. Question:

GM says to not park it inside. You do anyways. House burns down with the car. Does your homeowners insurance company balk at a fix to the house?
 

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And temperature has nothing to do with chemical reactions? By the way, this study disagrees:
Of course higher ambient temperatures could cause thermal runaway to happen minutes sooner. But to actually initiate a fire you are looking at hundreds of degrees above any earth temperatures, as shown by this study.
 

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YOur article is awesome, but the BOLT battery has its own temp management system. Once the battery decides to shorts inside (torn anode, folded separator, swelling..ect.) it will start brewing within the sealed battery housing. Outside temp has not much to do with it. Once it starts venting gasses and flames, it's game over.
If the battery is on a unstoppable runaway heating trajectory before it starts to significantly heat up, then any amount of cooling isn't going to help. Do we know that for sure at this point?

I am not talking about temperatures inside versus outside, but instead COOLING, inside versus outside.

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I read most of the posts here. Question:

GM says to not park it inside. You do anyways. House burns down with the car. Does your homeowners insurance company balk at a fix to the house?
Whole convo about this very topic. :)

 
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