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Greetings from Ypsilanti, Michigan! [SE Mich neighbor of Ann Arbor]

Took delivery Oct 16 of a 2020 Chevy Bolt EV Premium in black with charcoal interior; looking ready for the Opera.
Surprising OEM & dealer price concessions sealed the deal and caused months of planning to travel hundreds of miles to buy a Hyundai Kona EV to fall by the way. [Thank you GM, Costco, and the dealership for generating an offer I couldn't refuse!]

There's an Electrify America facility just over a mile from my house, but I have an electrician scheduled to add a 220VAC circuit to my garage and install the fixed Webasto Level 2, 32-amp charging unit available from GM parts. While that unit retails for $599, my out of pocket was, once again due to discounts from dealership and Costco, greatly reduced to less than $180! [Yes, I know ... no WiFi, bells or whistles. But it will do what we need it to do.]
I'm looking into the pricing programs available from our local electric utility, DTE, and into what additional rebates might be available from utilities or the State of Michigan.

Very happy to have joined this forum!

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Congrats. I live in SE Michigan too, just north of Monroe. I also purchased a 2020 Premier a couple weeks ago. I actually purchased mine from a dealer in Missouri and had it shipped to me. I contacted 5 local dealers and nobody would sell it anywhere near the price I got. I originally was looking to buy a used 2nd gen Volt to upgrade from my 2014 Volt, but after taking the Bolt for a test drive, combined with the incredible discounts on the Bolt changed my mind to go with the Bolt.
 

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It was Mayse. I’m not sure if they were trying to get rid of them or something, but they had a bunch when I bought mine, but they haven’t had any new ones for sale for a couple weeks.
 

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Looks just like mine. Congrats. Looks like the dealer installed the black bow tie on yours.
Yes ... the Black Bowtie emblem had been installed by the dealer prior to our selecting the car. It's a nice touch if a bit pricey. Very observant of you to have noticed!
 

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Congrats. I live in SE Michigan too, just north of Monroe. I also purchased a 2020 Premier a couple weeks ago. I actually purchased mine from a dealer in Missouri and had it shipped to me. I contacted 5 local dealers and nobody would sell it anywhere near the price I got. I originally was looking to buy a used 2nd gen Volt to upgrade from my 2014 Volt, but after taking the Bolt for a test drive, combined with the incredible discounts on the Bolt changed my mind to go with the Bolt.
Your single-payment lease was lower than mine, so you must have gotten concessions from the dealer as well as the OEM and others ... congrats! Your Missouri dealer must have a lot full of Bolts they're trying to move. You must have also gotten an attractive price on delivery to Michigan to make it all worthwhile.
You sound like a die-hard GM electric fan ... hope you enjoy your new Bolt!
 

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Congrats. I live in SE Michigan too, just north of Monroe. I also purchased a 2020 Premier a couple weeks ago. I actually purchased mine from a dealer in Missouri and had it shipped to me. I contacted 5 local dealers and nobody would sell it anywhere near the price I got. I originally was looking to buy a used 2nd gen Volt to upgrade from my 2014 Volt, but after taking the Bolt for a test drive, combined with the incredible discounts on the Bolt changed my mind to go with the Bolt.
By way, you mentioned being just north of Monroe ... as it happens, we have a small sailboat at a marina in Monroe that I'm in the process of converting from diesel auxiliary to electric propulsion. It's an electric future!
 

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Your single-payment lease was lower than mine, so you must have gotten concessions from the dealer as well as the OEM and others ... congrats! Your Missouri dealer must have a lot full of Bolts they're trying to move. You must have also gotten an attractive price on delivery to Michigan to make it all worthwhile.
You sound like a die-hard GM electric fan ... hope you enjoy your new Bolt!

By way, you mentioned being just north of Monroe ... as it happens, we have a small sailboat at a marina in Monroe that I'm in the process of converting from diesel auxiliary to electric propulsion. It's an electric future!
It's great to hear about more Bolts in Michigan, I have only seen a couple others on the road since I bought mine. I actually purchased, not leased. I drive 20,000-25,000 miles per year, so way too many miles to lease. I got a $5,500 dealer discount, plus $3000 Costco, & $8500 GM, so $17,000 total off MSRP. Delivery to Michigan was only $600 and it was delivered only a couple days after signing the paperwork. This is my third GM electric vehicle as we owned 2 Volts as the same time for a while.

I do wish GM did a better job of advertising the Bolt and adjusted the price to be a bit more realistic instead of offering all of the rebates, I think they would sell a lot more if they did. It hurts that in Michigan, you pay sales tax off pre-rebate prices and registration fees based off MSRP. Not to mention how many other states offer tax credits for purchasing an EV, however Michigan doesn't do that and instead charges you an additional registration surcharge. I get that money is needed for the roads and EVs don't pay gas tax. Something will need to be done at some point, but with EV adoption rates in the single percentages, it's not going to dent road funding at this point. The Michigan based automakers need all the help they can get to launch EVs now, not additional hurdles.

Your sailboat project sounds pretty cool. I did not even know electric propulsion existed for those. We are lucky to have the Great Lakes so close. Anyways, I agree it is an electric future. The price for the technology keeps dropping and once people experience the performance and long term cost savings, it should be an easy sell. I hope you enjoy your Bolt as much as I have enjoyed mine so far.
 

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Greetings from Ypsilanti, Michigan! [SE Mich neighbor of Ann Arbor]
There's an Electrify America facility just over a mile from my house, but I have an electrician scheduled to add a 220VAC circuit to my garage and install the fixed Webasto Level 2, 32-amp charging unit available from GM parts.
Home much did it cost to run 220 to your garage?
 

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I do wish GM did a better job of advertising the Bolt and adjusted the price to be a bit more realistic instead of offering all of the rebates, I think they would sell a lot more if they did.
So true. I feel like this is the main reason the Bolt hasn’t been as mainstream as it should be. It’s an amazing car that was just never given the attention it deserves.
 

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So true. I feel like this is the main reason the Bolt hasn’t been as mainstream as it should be. It’s an amazing car that was just never given the attention it deserves.
I suspect GM doesn't feel the need to spend ad money on Bolt. They only seem to have capacity to make as many as they sell, ads would create more demand than they could supply.

That will change. Their Barclays presentation this week has a pretty aggressive 2025 goal for 30 models across their brands. They will no doubt kick in more ad money to promote these, and the Lordstown plant will assure more EV drivetrain component capacity. You can bet they will shift production to the EVs that sell, so perhaps more Bolt EV and EUV emphasis if that is what the markets choose.

GM didn't bring the Bolt to market to appeal to masses. They brought it to market with sufficient quantity to learn, but also limiting exposure if it failed. That may payoff big rewards if they end up replacing whole battery packs in the current recall. Imagine the cost if they sold 2-3X more units.

They learned that the Ultium line was necessary to achieve cost reductions, range improvement, and faster charging. They are also a year or so into the next generation of Ultium drivetrains, even before the first Ultium models go to market. The Ultium line is expected to reduce costs 30%, next-gen Ultium another 20%. That kind of cost savings will make it realistic to compete and make steady profits.

GM will make a big deal about Bolts when they have capacity to sell large quantities. Likely that will be after they start using Ultium drivetrains in some future model.
 

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Home much did it cost to run 220 to your garage?
Hey, EW ... hope all is well.
The three main things my electrician considered in pricing out the install were: (a) was my service adequate to handle the additional load [I just squeaked by with 100 amps, but our needs are modest and most folks would want 150 amp capacity]; (b) did my existing panel have room for the new breakers [they used two places for 50-amp breaker, though this exceeded the 40 amps I needed for the 32-amp charger]; and (c) how long and how difficult was the run of cable from the panel to the garage wall where I wanted the outlet [in our case, it was a simple run through a crawl space of about 22 feet].
I haven't seen the detailed invoice yet, but the estimate was for $800.
Hope that helps!
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So true. I feel like this is the main reason the Bolt hasn’t been as mainstream as it should be. It’s an amazing car that was just never given the attention it deserves.
Hi Jcray,
Certainly advertising would help drive people to their dealerships, but if my experience can be taken as indicative of what the masses will encounter as a buying experience when they get to their local GM/Chevy dealer, then all the advertising dollars will be spent for naught. If I had not already known as much as I did before going into the dealer, I doubt I would ever have gotten comfortable enough to buy one. The sales representative's attempts at talking about the features of the car before our test drive were sub-par. He did not know his product; did not know what questions to ask of us; and had to go to their "product specialist" for an answer to a basic question concerning the included charging unit, the answer to which turned out wrong. Tone starts at the top, as they say, and in the case of our local dealer, the dealer/owner clearly has no feeling for or interest in selling EVs.
Before GM/Chevy starts spending much money on advertising their EV line-up, they'll have to spend a lot more on training and dealer incentives [SPIFF the sales reps to reward knowledge acquisition, guys!] as well as community events that demo the cars.
The car has been fun so far, but our experience in the dealerships was a disappointment.
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Congrats. I too am originally from SE MI. Went to Bedford HS and attended Monroe County Community College on Raisinville Road. We used to call it "Raisinville High". Now a transplant in Florida. Just bought my wife a 2017 Bolt LT in red.
 

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Congrats. I too am originally from SE MI. Went to Bedford HS and attended Monroe County Community College on Raisinville Road. We used to call it "Raisinville High". Now a transplant in Florida. Just bought my wife a 2017 Bolt LT in red.
I actually commute about 60 miles per day and work in Bedford. Congrats on the new Bolt!
 

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I suspect GM doesn't feel the need to spend ad money on Bolt. They only seem to have capacity to make as many as they sell, ads would create more demand than they could supply.

That will change. Their Barclays presentation this week has a pretty aggressive 2025 goal for 30 models across their brands. They will no doubt kick in more ad money to promote these, and the Lordstown plant will assure more EV drivetrain component capacity. You can bet they will shift production to the EVs that sell, so perhaps more Bolt EV and EUV emphasis if that is what the markets choose.

GM didn't bring the Bolt to market to appeal to masses. They brought it to market with sufficient quantity to learn, but also limiting exposure if it failed. That may payoff big rewards if they end up replacing whole battery packs in the current recall. Imagine the cost if they sold 2-3X more units.

They learned that the Ultium line was necessary to achieve cost reductions, range improvement, and faster charging. They are also a year or so into the next generation of Ultium drivetrains, even before the first Ultium models go to market. The Ultium line is expected to reduce costs 30%, next-gen Ultium another 20%. That kind of cost savings will make it realistic to compete and make steady profits.

GM will make a big deal about Bolts when they have capacity to sell large quantities. Likely that will be after they start using Ultium drivetrains in some future model.
Maybe, yeah. Not sure how much of that ad money will go towards the Bolt EV instead of the EUV. The latest recall can’t help and may result in them redirecting their attention to one of the other 29 upcoming EVs, including the electric pickup they had sitting behind them during their call, but hopefully the Bolt’s sales will pick up cause it really is an amazing car!
 

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I see the reports of 29 upcoming EV's, but wonder where they are going to get all that lithium and turn it into enough batteries. I also wonder if their engineering team is broad enough to generate the many new cars - particularly BEV's. Can their ICE car engineers adapt that fast?

In any case I'm glad for the focus.
 
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