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He's counting dealer stock Bolts awaiting packs as evidence that they are languishing on lots struggling to find buyers. He's clueless.

My dealership had five 2022 Bolts on the lot when I was there two weeks ago. Four were awaiting packs, so couldn't be sold. One had received a new pack, and had a Sold sign on it. Several on this forum have reported the same thing at their dealerships.
 

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I don't believe in the 4 months supply he was saying either. Unless each dealer is only planning to sell 1 Bolt per month. I had to drive to 3 dealerships and finally verify with one dealership that it was able to sell a Bolt EUV Premier. The only reason I was able to buy it was a customer for this car had cancelled their order. My car sat on the lot for 2 days before I bought it. Every vehicle that was supposedly on the lot were either marked in-transit, stop sale or customer order. Only a rare few are marked as available for sale. The Bolt that was physically on the lot had a stop sale.

I just hope GM isn't just relying on word-of-mouth sales like a Tesla to taut how good their new Bolt is and actually start promoting aggressively like they should.
 

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There are plenty of Bolts that already had new batteries and can be sold. I know because I bought one. If I widen my search to 75 miles I can find even more available
My Bolt came from a batch of 20 Bolts coming from the US. Dealer sold all of them in under a week. I had missed my opportunity with 2 previous dealers already. I hesitated for too long and when i decided to buy dealers had already sold all of them. I don't doubt that even with a global car shortage some dealers will have some Bolt available for sale while other dealers will have none. But most manufacturers that sell EVs have a year or more long wait list and the Bolt is one of the most affordable 200+ miles range in the list come on.
 

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My Bolt came from a batch of 20 Bolts coming from the US. Dealer sold all of them in under a week. I had missed my opportunity with 2 previous dealers already. I hesitated for too long and when i decided to buy dealers had already sold all of them. I don't doubt that even with a global car shortage some dealers will have some Bolt available for sale while other dealers will have none. But most manufacturers that sell EVs have a year or more long wait list and the Bolt is one of the most affordable 200+ miles range in the list come on.
I was lucky to find one that was just 35 miles away with my 50 miles search radius. I found 4 after broadening the search but I didn't feel like driving over an hour and a half to buy a car. It's definitely not 4 months supply that's for sure. Unless he meant they can only sell 1 Bolt per month.
 

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They need to massively ramp production and actively promote sales at the same time if they are supposedly trying to outsell Tesla in 2025.
I'm not sure GM could ever go over 50k units per year. They're putting $4 billion into Orion for pickups and they've already according to scant press reports rededicated Sonic lines to the EUV. That leaves a significant space problem and an outdated platform (BEV2) with little to no cross-efficiencies in manufacturing. It's also going to be competing for space with massively popular, hugely profitable, way higher priced vehicles that are necessary for GM's very survival vs. makers like Ford.

This is all happening while GM readies other ~$30k EVs under the BEV3 (Ultium) product line which is highly modular and built for manufacturing efficiency at scale.

We can all sit here and acknowledge the logic in a vacuum of making more Bolts to sell but the reality is we're hitting some pretty big walls that have kept people predicting the Bolt's ultimate demise for some time now. The Blazer and Equinox should provide more bang for the buck, be incredibly desirable and exceed the Bolt in specs in every way. Couple that with finite raw materials that exceed demand and the Bolt's future looks dim and production ramping, unlikely.
 

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That makes me sad that GM is going to stop producing their only affordable BEV in favor of more expensive and larger vehicles. We already have a very successful start up company that makes expensive BEV for wealthy people.
This is all speculation, I just root for the better picture which is they make a BEV3 Bolt. Regardless, if you combine the Trax and bolt sales in a non-supply starved year, that would be ~150,000 units, there's going to be something from GM in relative Bolt-size in the future. When you look at it from that perspective we're really just rooting for whatever label emerges.

My bet is whatever the Bolt replacement winds up being either gets released first as a Buick or simultaneously.
 

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Took us visiting 4 dealerships in Las Vegas to find a 22 EUV, but even the one we found is due to arrive some time this month (maybe). So, I don't know what he's talking about.
 

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I did a 150 mile search for a Bolt EUV in my area. All are either "IN TRANSIT" or "can't be sold at this time". I couldn't find one to even test drive. :( Although I don't understand why the cars that can't be sold can't be used for test drives. Assuming it is only for battery replacements.
 

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I don't believe in the 4 months supply he was saying either. Unless each dealer is only planning to sell 1 Bolt per month. I had to drive to 3 dealerships and finally verify with one dealership that it was able to sell a Bolt EUV Premier. The only reason I was able to buy it was a customer for this car had cancelled their order. My car sat on the lot for 2 days before I bought it. Every vehicle that was supposedly on the lot were either marked in-transit, stop sale or customer order. Only a rare few are marked as available for sale. The Bolt that was physically on the lot had a stop sale.

I just hope GM isn't just relying on word-of-mouth sales like a Tesla to taut how good their new Bolt is and actually start promoting aggressively like they should.
My dealer got a truck load of Bolts and sold them in 3 days, I got one
 

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Lots of these guys are using that data for length of time Bolts are sitting unsold on dealers lots to put down the Bolt without getting the whole story of why they are sitting there. They assume because nobody wants to buy them. Which is a totally false assumption.
 
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IMO it's just typical marketing practices in the era in which we live. Look at reviews of many new products and there are lots of folks out there talking up one flaw or another. I see this across a very wide range of products. Many of the ones I have personal experience with and have to wonder what are they talking about. It's all about tearing down the competition. It would be very interesting to see who is behind many of these "reviews", probably marketing organizations for competitors.

As for the original review, missed many facts so is anything they say worth believing?

As for GM marketing hahahahahahahaha! They are good at selling expensive large pickups and SUVs. They had a fantastic car in the Volt and did absolutely nothing to market it. A bit more with the Bolt but again no marketing. As far as I'm concerned I expect them to abandon the Bolt and pretty much every other inexpensive vehicle. I see a desire to compete from Ford but not GM. Recently read about their plans to "bridge" to the EVs by building even more expensive models. Pretty soon production will surpass buyers and then it sellers market will end - always does and ouch not the time to be selling.
 

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This is how I got mine, I combed all the dealerships within 150 miles and did my diligence on who would sell at MSRP, and honor the GM rebate instead of keeping it all for themselves. That whittled me down to 3 dealers and out of the 3, I got one to assign one in transit to me. Within 2 weeks it was mine. Don't wait for the "in transit" ones to arrive, work the dealers to get one reserved for you.
 

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I don't believe in the 4 months supply he was saying either. Unless each dealer is only planning to sell 1 Bolt per month. I had to drive to 3 dealerships and finally verify with one dealership that it was able to sell a Bolt EUV Premier. The only reason I was able to buy it was a customer for this car had cancelled their order. My car sat on the lot for 2 days before I bought it. Every vehicle that was supposedly on the lot were either marked in-transit, stop sale or customer order. Only a rare few are marked as available for sale. The Bolt that was physically on the lot had a stop sale.

I just hope GM isn't just relying on word-of-mouth sales like a Tesla to taut how good their new Bolt is and actually start promoting aggressively like they should.
I was told at a dealership that the stop sale was because the battery issue still has not been resolved.
 
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