Never heard of them till now. I will pass even I have that sort of money. The efficiency is rather low.
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Anyone else want a Rivian?
Not sure if it is competition for the Bolt since it is a wildly different form factor, but I was really impressed by the R1S when I saw it at fully charged live in Austin Texas. It looked a lot better than the R1T and that sort of surprised me... I'm not normally an SUV guy, but with pickup trucks I like the look of a longer bed than the configuration the R1T has.
Anyway, battery sizes of 105 kWh, 135 kWh and 180 kWh with aprox 2.222 miles per kWh efficiency gives you ranges of 230+, 300+ and 400+ miles.
Using that same 2.2 miles per kWh and their statement that you can gain 200 miles of range in 30 min (90 kWh) on a CCS station, that gives you 180 KW charging (I would assume that charging quote is for the big battery pack, and the smaller ones will either charge slower or taper sooner, probably both).
I wish EV makers would just publish their charging curves!
I don't think I could live with the short range version of the Rivian, that quote of 200 miles of range in 30 min would be charging at 180 KW up to 86% SOC, I bet that it tapers well before then... the question becomes how fast does it taper? Also, that 2.2 miles per kWh is the average, I wonder how bad it is at highway speeds? If the average is 2.2 and we project the same efficiency drop for the R1S that you get in a Bolt going at highway speeds, are we looking at 150 miles range on the highway on an 80% charge (1.8 miles per kWh)? I would expect the R1S to have a worse hit to efficiency at highway speeds than the Bolt, so highway range on 80% charge of the small battery pack is probably closer to 125 miles than it is to 150 miles. If so, it isn't much better than a Bolt for cross country travel.
For me, getting the small battery Rivian would be about the most I could spend on a vehicle, so unless my assumptions are wrong above I can't see myself in a new Rivian... I would have to wait until they hit the used market in 5 or more years.
I would love for them to come out with a 250 HP or less version that was more efficient on the highway and cost less... In other words, I want a Short Rang RWD Cybertruck with a Rivian body
I don't see that happening any time soon!
Later,
Keith
Anyway, battery sizes of 105 kWh, 135 kWh and 180 kWh with aprox 2.222 miles per kWh efficiency gives you ranges of 230+, 300+ and 400+ miles.
Using that same 2.2 miles per kWh and their statement that you can gain 200 miles of range in 30 min (90 kWh) on a CCS station, that gives you 180 KW charging (I would assume that charging quote is for the big battery pack, and the smaller ones will either charge slower or taper sooner, probably both).
I wish EV makers would just publish their charging curves!
I don't think I could live with the short range version of the Rivian, that quote of 200 miles of range in 30 min would be charging at 180 KW up to 86% SOC, I bet that it tapers well before then... the question becomes how fast does it taper? Also, that 2.2 miles per kWh is the average, I wonder how bad it is at highway speeds? If the average is 2.2 and we project the same efficiency drop for the R1S that you get in a Bolt going at highway speeds, are we looking at 150 miles range on the highway on an 80% charge (1.8 miles per kWh)? I would expect the R1S to have a worse hit to efficiency at highway speeds than the Bolt, so highway range on 80% charge of the small battery pack is probably closer to 125 miles than it is to 150 miles. If so, it isn't much better than a Bolt for cross country travel.
For me, getting the small battery Rivian would be about the most I could spend on a vehicle, so unless my assumptions are wrong above I can't see myself in a new Rivian... I would have to wait until they hit the used market in 5 or more years.
I would love for them to come out with a 250 HP or less version that was more efficient on the highway and cost less... In other words, I want a Short Rang RWD Cybertruck with a Rivian body
I don't see that happening any time soon!Later,
Keith
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Those interested in the Cybertruck may find these interesting.
www.tesmanian.com
And May 17 episode of Jay Leno's garage will be featuring the Cybertruck.
Tesla Cybertruck Convoy Across The TransAmerica Trail To Test EV Pick Up's Limits
A Tesla Cybertruck convoy will travel across the TransAmerica Trail to test the limits of the all-electric pickup.
www.tesmanian.com
I love how people who don't own the truck yet are planning their summer adventure for 2022. Also, the article mentions off roading where charging is not available and relying on the solar tonneau cover for power. I hope they plan to camp for weeks in a sunny area and use no power during that time while they re-charge!Those interested in the Cybertruck may find these interesting.
And May 17 episode of Jay Leno's garage will be featuring the Cybertruck.Tesla Cybertruck Convoy Across The TransAmerica Trail To Test EV Pick Up's Limits
A Tesla Cybertruck convoy will travel across the TransAmerica Trail to test the limits of the all-electric pickup.
Keith
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