[PA Bolt EV]

Walked out to my Bolt and was stunned by the difference in size! Silverado 2500 HD vs. Bolt EV. It is even more impactful in person. The roof of the Bolt is about the height of the hood on the Silverado.

I was curious to see what kind of mileage a 2500 HD would get, and learned that the EPA doesn't even bother testing fuel economy on this class of vehicles?!?

 

[NortonCommando]

Look, some men need trucks,,,, for some reason.
Some need to prove something.

Let me guess,, the bed was pristine?!?

 

[GJETSON]

I was curious to see what kind of mileage a 2500 HD would get, and learned that the EPA doesn't even bother testing fuel economy on this class of vehicles?!?

Huh! That doesn't even qualify for a second look around here. The tires still fit under the fenders.

 

[redpoint5]

Looks like a normal full-size truck. Generally, people purchasing them would have a use case for it. I see a bed box in the rear, which might indicate the truck is used for something.

As pointed out above, people showing off would probably oversize the tires, take the old man running boards off, and lift it.

What I never got was the interest in so-called fast trucks like the Lightning. It's a bit of an oxymoron because trucks handle like trash and aren't fast. They're meant for utility, not taking fast corners.

... my in-laws drove 1,250 miles in their GMC Sierra to our house, visited for 3 days, then drove 1,250 back. Probably used 125 gallons of petrol, spending $560. I'd have traded cars with someone for that trip or rented something.

 

[NortonCommando]

.... Generally, people purchasing them would have a use case for it. ...
They're meant for utility, not taking fast corners.

They're also used for reinforcing a man's fragile machismo.
Drive around the burbs and watch for them.
Very few are for 'utility'.
Well, some are for pulling the +$200k boat to The Lake!
A few times a year.

 

[redpoint5]

They're also used for reinforcing a man's fragile machismo.
Drive around the burbs and watch for them.
Very few are for 'utility'.
Well, some are for pulling the +$200k boat to The Lake!
A few times a year.

a. women are attracted to men who drive trucks at a subconscious level
b. some men understand this and wish to boost their appeal to women
c. some people drive trucks in urban areas because they only own 1 vehicle so they use it for both transportation and utility

My in-laws are an example of c. He works on a farm and needs the utility of a truck, but that's his only vehicle, so that's what he drives halfway across the country to visit. No ego whatsoever.

I'll point out some people drive EVs as ego extensions too. Lots of ways to express personality with "things".

Personally, I don't consider image whatsoever when purchasing a vehicle because I don't consider myself so 1-dimensional to be characterized as a typical "truck driver" or "Prius driver" or any other stereotype (currently considering a minivan, plug-in preferably). I'm an individual, not arbitrary subset of identities.

Anecdotally... my first girlfriend had previously dated my friend for just a month. He drove a Ford Lightning, and she admitted that it seemed fun to date a guy with a fun truck, so that's why she went after him. He's the type to consider what women find attractive in every decision, and it works.

 

[usedBolt]

Walked out to my Bolt and was stunned by the difference in size! Silverado 2500 HD vs. Bolt EV. It is even more impactful in person. The roof of the Bolt is about the height of the hood on the Silverado.

I was curious to see what kind of mileage a 2500 HD would get, and learned that the EPA doesn't even bother testing fuel economy on this class of vehicles?!?

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At a Cars & Coffee, I ended up parked next to an original (1960s) Mini. Very similar visual comparison between the Huge Bolt and the Mini.

 

[PA Bolt EV]

I took this photo because I was actually surprised at the size difference. I see a number of large trucks driving around, but had never had one park right beside me! I guess I don't get out much .

I also don't consider the Bolt a particularly small car. Compact, yes... but actually stands a good bit taller than our Volt.

Also... I really didn't realize that the EPA did not do fuel efficiency on large trucks, but learned that CA still has a rating system.

 

[GJETSON]

What I never got was the interest in so-called fast trucks

We have guys around here with trucks that will out corner many cars...massive, wide, low profile street tires well outside the wheel wells. It is pretty terrifying to see one rolling up on your bumper, especially if they pass on the yellow line.

 

[usedBolt]

We have guys around here with trucks that will out corner many cars...massive, wide, low profile street tires well outside the wheel wells. It is pretty terrifying to see one rolling up on your bumper, especially if they pass on the yellow line.

Not if ... when.

 

[GJETSON]

Not if ... when.

Most amazing feat of driving I ever saw up close, was on my Bolt trip down the entire BRP, and Great Smoky Mountain National Park to Dandridge, Tennessee. I was running at the speed limit. My goal was to drive as much of this road at the posted 45 mph limit as possible. Many of the curves were decreasing radius, blind, and with wild animals often in the road, it felt risky much of the time.

I had a guy in what appeared to be a NASCAR style race car, with plates, come up within inches of my bumper. This was on the windiest part of the entire BRP, and it really brings out the racer types. He went around me downhill, in one of these curves. I am pretty sure there was never more than a foot between the sheet metal of our two cars during the entire maneuver. I just held my speed, and my line. The guy ahead of me thought he would mess with this fellow, and pulled to the center of the road, only pulling over for oncoming cars. The racer dude was right on his bumper for several miles. Finally, the obstructing driver pulled into an overlook. I suspect he was soon sorry, as the racer was on his bumper when he stopped. I didn't hear any gun shots, but I suspect a fight might have ensued.

 

[CHASBOLT]

I hate full size tanks like that. Bring back a EV version S10 size reg cab pickup and i am in.

 

[shrox]

Walked out to my Bolt and was stunned by the difference in size! Silverado 2500 HD vs. Bolt EV. It is even more impactful in person. The roof of the Bolt is about the height of the hood on the Silverado.

I was curious to see what kind of mileage a 2500 HD would get, and learned that the EPA doesn't even bother testing fuel economy on this class of vehicles?!?

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Oh look, it's a four door sedan that's missing it's trunk lid. Our neighbors have them, must be a fleet deal on big white trucks.

 

[BoltEUV]

It's like owning steel toed boots and sneakers. They're both very useful and do different things.

 

[Packard V8]

I hate full size tanks like that. Bring back a EV version S10 size reg cab pickup and i am in.

If the mini-truck fits, wear it. JMHO, but they're a size too small for taller guys.

jack vines, who has a '55 Studebaker pickup; and yes, average guys were smaller back in the day, so were trucks. It's always been too small for me to be comfortable in it.

 

[BoltCanuck]

It's like owning steel toed boots and sneakers. They're both very useful and do different things.

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Nice looking EUV!

 

[RacerX00]

I was curious to see what kind of mileage a 2500 HD would get, and learned that the EPA doesn't even bother testing fuel economy on this class of vehicles?!?

This is true but it's actually true for a very good reason. The variety of trucks within a single platform is through the roof. If you have 5 engines most with several transmission options and the weight can vary by 2,000 lbs by the time you get to "summary" any single number you begin to apply becomes absolutely meaningless.

This is far different than looking at say a Corolla that only fluctuates by 200 lbs and has 2 engine options with a single transmission.

Light duty trucks are excluded because a single number would be completely inaccurate and meaningless to the overwhelming majority of buyers of the truck.

 

[ddamico361]

I am pretty sure there was never more than a foot between the sheet metal of our two cars during the entire maneuver. I just held my speed, and my line. The guy ahead of me thought he would mess with this fellow, and pulled to the center of the road, only pulling over for oncoming cars. The racer dude was right on his bumper for several miles. Finally, the obstructing driver pulled into an overlook. I suspect he was soon sorry, as the racer was on his bumper when he stopped. I didn't hear any gun shots, but I suspect a fight might have ensued.

Because individual drivers cannot be categorized, I think of all drivers of these behemoth trucks as self-centered jerks. I could be wrong but I think I'm at least 99% right.