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Bolt EUV First Spy

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My 2 cents - I have two kids and the Bolt is plenty big for the 4 of us. We've taken week-long vacation trips in it. The most ambitious trip included time at the beach, time in the mountains, and a few nights camping in between (so we had our tent, air mattress, sleeping bags, chairs, etc. all packed along with the 4 of us. IMO the VAST majority of people who say the Bolt is too small if you have kids simply don't know how to pack properly. The only exceptions are things that are legitimately large. For example, my son plays the double bass and we cannot fit it and the 4 of us in the car. But we rarely travel with it - only to local concerts, in which case we take two cars.

Also, I too miss the lower seating position. The car handles better, plus you just feel more connected with the road. It's a much better experience all around. But those don't sell any more so most of them are gone. I REALLY miss the import sports coupes of the 90s. I wish someone would make a sports coupe EV. It would be a great commuter / around town car. The Bolt is already big enough for my family of 4 and our stuff. And my wife and I need two cars anyway (two commutes in opposite directions).
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Correct. It's a "Hot Hatch" but you have to say it like Nikki Gordon Blumfield from Transport Evolved (YouTube) ... that is to say with a proper British accent!
Just to be a nudnik 鈥 there is not such thing as a "proper British accent"; Britain has many regional dialects, ranging from Cockney to Brummie to Scouse to Yorkshire to Mackem to Geordie to Glaswegian, never mind sociolects.

To continue in the nudnik vein, the Bolt, even though it has a hatch-like device in the back, is 5-6" taller than the cars we commonly call hatchbacks, like the Golf, the Accent (the Korean one, not British) or the Focus. Bolt's proportions (tall, narrow and short) put it, IMO, into the category of microvans, like those kei vans that are very common in East Asian cities. I guess CUV wouldn't be a wrong category either.
To continue in the nudnik vein, the Bolt, even though it has a hatch-like device in the back, is 5-6" taller than the cars we commonly call hatchbacks, like the Golf, the Accent (the Korean one, not British) or the Focus. Bolt's proportions (tall, narrow and short) put it, IMO, into the category of microvans, like those kei vans that are very common in East Asian cities. I guess CUV wouldn't be a wrong category either.
5-6" taller most likely necessary for the battery and the skateboard configuration.
My 2 cents - I have two kids and the Bolt is plenty big for the 4 of us.

Don't get me wrong. I am not saying the Bolt is too small. I am saying one with a bit more cargo space would be enough car for anybody.

If I ran the world, every SUV would already be recycled for material to build windmills, and their former owners would be required to pedal a bicycle to work.
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New Article Today:

"The most recent spy shots and spy video of the future Chevrolet Bolt EUV revealed a vehicle with larger proportions compared to the current Bolt EV, but with a slightly stretched wheelbase.."

"We expect the Chevrolet Bolt EUV to launch in 2020 for the 2021 model year as a longer and roomier variant of the Bolt EV...."



Read more: http://gmauthority.com/blog/2019/05...carriage-reveals-bolt-ev-roots/#ixzz5osDoE7gt
"The most recent spy shots and spy video of the future Chevrolet Bolt EUV revealed a vehicle with larger proportions compared to the current Bolt EV, but with a slightly stretched wheelbase.."
Same pictures and no more actual information than a week ago. Total fantasy. The car in those pictures is a Bolt with an overcoat...nothing more.
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I'm just hoping that the vehicle is a few inches wider. And the width is used to improve the seats. Also think wider would make a better looking vehicle profile.
It's interesting that this newer article seems to go into detail describing the undercarriage, suspension, etc.. And then goes out of their way to state that it's a slightly longer wheelbase & dimensions , granted, without any detail as to why they seem to think or know that ...
It's interesting that this newer article seems to go into detail describing the undercarriage, suspension, etc.. And goes out of their way to state that it's a slightly longer wheelbase & dimensions , granted, without any detail as to why they seem to think or know that ...
Slow news day for GM EV's.
A gutted Equinox with a Bolt drivetrain and slightly larger battery.
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100 Quatloos on the newcomer!


I'm trying to be positive because if the Model Y I have on order does not pan out (cumulative effect of the Tesla Brain Drain), then it's likely gonna be another Bolt for me. Would be nice to be able to pull down a slightly wider, or at least slightly longer (cargo space) version.
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100 Quatloos on the newcomer!


I'm trying to be positive because if the Model Y I have on order does not pan out (cumulative effect of the Tesla Brain Drain), then it's likely gonna be another Bolt for me. Would be nice to be able to pull down a slightly wider, or at least slightly longer (cargo space) version.
You have a Model Y on order? Holy cow, I thought those people only exist in Musk's dreams (after what he did to the Model 3 reservation holders).

If Tesla's past performance is anything to go by, Model Y will pan out, eventually, but there is no telling when, or what the real specs and build quality would be, or how much it would cost, or how it would compare to other EV's.
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If Tesla's past performance is anything to go by, Model Y will pan out, eventually, but there is no telling when, or what the real specs and build quality would be, or how much it would cost, or how it would compare to other EV's.
It actually occurs to me that the Bolt EUV may be to the Bolt EV what the Model Y is to the Model 3.... a slightly modified body on the same chassis. Even so, we don't know what the real specs of the EUV will be, how much it will cost, or how it will compare to other EVs. ;>

Of course that is on the surface only. It appears the Model Y will be significantly retooled in spite of the fact it will be built on the Model 3 platform. Tesla has filed for patents on a single piece body as opposed to the current criticized multi-part body design... as well as for a greatly simplified/downsized wiring harness. And who knows, Tesla may even go all super-capacitor on us and eliminate the 12volt battery that EVs have been anchored to since the beginning of modern EV time.

That's why I'm keeping my options open for whatever is to come by the time my Bolt comes off lease in 1/22. ;>
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Chevy Menlo? The same thing?
Electrek is out with a article today with actual pics of what may be the Chinese counterpart to the EUV.


BOLT EV
164" L x 70" W x 63" H
Wheelbase 102.4"

"MENLO EV"
183.7" L x 71.4" W x 59.6" H
wheelbase 104.7"

Apparently same top speed, but 26 less HP compared to the US powertrain. Can't wait to see the torque specs, battery size, and range numbers.
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I'm hoping it could at least make it to USA with a better battery pack.
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I looked through the several articles linked from a Google News search.

It seems this is a China-only model not closely related to Bolt. It doesn't use the Bolt powertrain and will never be sold in the US. At best this is an inspiration for US-model designers.

So the wait here continues ,,,
So the wait here continues ,,,
Perhaps so. I for one would like to see a wider body than even the 71.4" of the Menlo. As a reference the Model 3, a "compact" sedan, is 73" wide.

Personal preferences aside, a body any wider than the current Bolt EV would be indicative that GM is not building the EUV on the modified Sonic frame. Which in turn would be a tell that the automaker meant it when it said it was discontinuing the Volt to focus on pure electric. It would be helpful if someone who understands production lines could offer an opinion on the likelihood that a new platform is in the offing given the report that the EUV will be built on the same assy line as the current Bolt EV.
Menlo EV is longer, wider, and less tall than the Bolt - all moves in the right direction. I sure hope this has a lot in common with the Bolt EUV.

As an aside, the Model 3 is not a "compact" sedan. It is a midsized sedan.
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It would be helpful if someone who understands production lines could offer an opinion on the likelihood that a new platform is in the offing given the report that the EUV will be built on the same assy line as the current Bolt EV.
I can offer some insight, but not much. In GM speak they have "vehicle platforms" The bolt is a BEV2 vehicle, Battery Electric Vehicle version 2, the upcoming platform is a BEV3. GM showed a chart in this presentation of all the variants that could be built on BEV3, see slide 14. They have already stated that the first BEV3 vehicle will be the Cadillac

They also committed to two more BEV 2 vehicles, by about now, in Oct of 2017, but who knows, the current administration has not been, umm, "very supportive" of GM. No extension of the Federal tax deduction, Trump saying "they are going all electric, that won't work" Tariffs, etc... In this climate I would not at all be surprised to see programs stretched out or canceled.

I believe that the BEV2 platform would support slightly larger dimensions and could still be built on the same line...
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