{Sorry if this was already posted - it is from July '18}
Bolt vs. Leaf vs. Tesla Model 3 | Edmunds
Bolt vs. Leaf vs. Tesla Model 3 | Edmunds
I find that I have to cut and paste the URL of the video into a separate browser page to see some of the imbedded YouTube(s). This one was no exception.For some reason, it won't play ("error occurred")
If you run your calculator against your existing Prius, add in expected maintenance expenses over 60 Months.There's a Leaf 2.0 with Pro Pilot and 900 miles on the odometer for sale near Portland for $29,000.
And people like Diesel trucks for the Torque (with a capital T)... when they realize they can have TORQUE from an electric motor instead of Torque from a Diesel there will be a large market in the fly over states for Big honking EV trucks.I however think we'll need an EV pickup for them to become truly common - and I think the first vendor to market with a good EV pickup would jump ahead of the rest of the crowd - as we know Car's are not where the money is (Ford is leaving the 'car' market)…SUV/Trucks are sales leaders…
Best paragraph:I find this review interesting - it's a perspective from a hard core track-rat - Pete knows his stuff and has been hired by several manufactures to "tune" their cars - his opinion goes a long ways in my opinion - read and enjoy
Both things can be true: the Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor is both a good car and a bad one. It can have poor initial quality as well as industry leading owner satisfaction, just as their CEO can be a genius while still doing very stupid things.
I know first hand that your point is valid. I work for a contractor and we are tough on our vehicles. They average about 100 miles/day and we can get about 200k miles before they are basically no longer feasible to keep running. It's not unusual to go through 2 transmissions in that time span.Back to my comment about contractors, I still think a BEV truck would be perfect for them. They usually operate in a 60 mile radius or less (usually much less), and maintenance can be a pain on an ICE since it takes the truck out of service for a day and costs a lot for the service itself. With a BEV truck, it never needs to be fueled since it starts out charged every day. Just drive to the site, run the AC without burning fuel if you want, and power your tools from an onboard inverter. I'd think a 60 kWh battery in such a truck would be just fine, and certainly a 100 kWh battery would accomplish most any days work. If I were a contractor, I'd be all over a truck that doesn't have a transmission to worry about, oil changes, fuel expenses, etc.
BTW, depending on the trailer and what is being hauled (aerodynamics), it doesn't necessarily consume that much more energy. Sure, going up a hill sucks down the KwH, but you get it back on the way down. It's the ICE trucks that throw all that energy away going down a hill.
Good grief! Does anyone else think these guys are giving ******** a bad rep? What the heck is the motivation to stick your head next to a noisy exhaust spewing filthy black soot?This belongs here
I don't feel smug. I feel despair. I often think that electric car advocates need a SAVE THE SUV bumper sticker. If only we had known...yeah, right.We shouldn't feel too smug driving our EV's around
And if you are wrong about how much time we have?one problem at a time people - one problem at a time
yes making stuff causes CO2 and other demands - but we know ICE emissions are a problem - if we take care of those (and they are large) we can turn out attention to the next big wins
this is not an all or nothing game
Be that as it may, it seems exceedingly likely to me that future generations will see our primal sin as first causing and then failing to respond to climate change, in just the same way we view the sins of slavery, colonialism, oppression etc. by our ancestors.Climate change is not an existential threat. It never was.
Besides all that, we need to solve the problems of our day. Trying to solve the problems of 10 generations into the future is futile, because those problems are sure to have changed from what we have predicted today.
The paradigm is changing and it may be today an upwardly mobile young executive father can take six weeks of paternity leave and not lose career momentum. If that has become the norm, better for everyone. Just how much of one's future can be bet sharks no longer react to blood in the water?I work for a publicly traded company, and they gave men 6 weeks of paid paternity leave not long ago.
Couple of things on that very good point:Why pay off mortgage debt though? I consider my 30 year fixed, low interest mortgage to be a hedge against inflation, and the interest is tax deductible.
If I was an idiot, I would have invested in TSLA @ $360 in hopes that it would go to $420 like EM suggested. Right now it's at $316. But in your world that's NOT "spent" money...it's an "investment". I have shown how paying off ones home can save Interest over time, which interest is INDEED "spent" money.the trick is to actually invest the money rather than simply spending it - if you're inclined to spend it - then by all means pay off the house!!
No offense taken. My main point is one of risk. I can guarantee (in online non-binding Forum terms), that an early payoff of ones home mortgage results in unambiguous hard dollar savings vs. paying that interest, irrespective of the rate, over time. This is why I took time time and effort to illustrate a model.my apologies Shotel - no slight was intended ...
You're stating the 20/20 hind-sight obvious. I would say my personal strategy isn't about an emotional connection to a companies mission (as I am all-in on the stated Tesla mission), but what are it's future prospects. Also, like I pointed out above, where is one at in their investment window? 6 years ago my son was 17. Now his window of investment is just opening. I think he also "believes in the Tesla mission". Would you, in good conscious, advise him to buy TSLA at today's price and volatility? Even for a 6 year hold position?And if you believed in the Tesla mission 6 years ago you would have 10x your investment.
Whether you would have been an idiot at $360 certainly seems evident today but we'll see if a year from now that may seem like a bargain. Many thought Tesla at $30 was ridiculously overpriced too.
Not advise.