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2016 Camaro Owner here from STL
Camaro is currently paid off.
My local dealer has a Chevy Bolt EV Premier 43735 MSRP. With discounts applied the price listed is at 33,988

The breakdown of the discount is
MPG 1000.00 Trade Assist. See dealer for details - Exp. 03/31/2019
$1,749 4% Off Conquest Cash must own/lease a 99 or newer Non GM vehicle - Exp. 03/31/2019
$6,997 16% Off 2019 Bolt - Exp. 03/31/2019

I happened to see ChevyUSA website and they are offering 0% for 72months plus 1500$ cash

As a Camaro owner (will I be excluded from the 4% conquest cash)
Will be able to get 1000 Trade assist + 6997 and then 1500 cash from chevy usa at 0% APR
In a possible scenario what is the maximum discount that I am eligible to get if I want to purchase the Bolt EV?
 

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my home is located in Texas with my DL associated there.
Texas state is now offering 2500 state EV tax credit along with Federal EV tax credit of 7500

My question to previous EV owners:
Is the 7500 tax credit still valid? If so when does it get over?
How do I file for the 7500 + 2500 (Texas) EV tax credit?
Do I have to file it along with 2020 tax return for 2019 calendar year?

Sorry if these questions are really silly but I'm a newbie to EV car segment and trying to understand it as much as I can before I pull the trigger in purchasing one
 

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Great questions. The current GM discounts are a phenomenal deal but as you noted, you need to hurry. If not just for the Federal Tax Credit which will drop in half on 4/1/19 but nobody here knows if the discounts will be extended, improved, dropped altogether after 4/1.
As long as you qualify for the full Federal Tax Credit meaning you will have tax liabilities of at least $7,500 for this calendar year (2019), and the current administration doesn't muck it up, I don't think you will do better by waiting.

The Federal Credit is applied for when you file next years taxes. It was form 8936 for 2018, not an accountant so can't say what it may be next year. You will need your VIN, year, make, model, and date vehicle was placed in service which will need to be before 3/31/19. Phase out percentage is 100%.
For the Texas credit, it may be taken right off the purchase price but I'm in NY so ??? In my case, it was taken off the original purchase price before the sales tax was calculated which is another $160 savings. Hopefully yours is handled the same way but talk to your dealer, he should know.
Congrats nonetheless, it's a great value if you want to buy a new EV.
 

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Great questions. The current GM discounts are a phenomenal deal but as you noted, you need to hurry. If not just for the Federal Tax Credit which will drop in half on 4/1/19 but nobody here knows if the discounts will be extended, improved, dropped altogether after 4/1.
As long as you qualify for the full Federal Tax Credit meaning you will have tax liabilities of at least $7,500 for this calendar year (2019), and the current administration doesn't muck it up, I don't think you will do better by waiting.

The Federal Credit is applied for when you file next years taxes. It was form 8936 for 2018, not an accountant so can't say what it may be next year. You will need your VIN, year, make, model, and date vehicle was placed in service which will need to be before 3/31/19. Phase out percentage is 100%.
For the Texas credit, it may be taken right off the purchase price but I'm in NY so ??? In my case, it was taken off the original purchase price before the sales tax was calculated which is another $160 savings. Hopefully yours is handled the same way but talk to your dealer, he should know.
Congrats nonetheless, it's a great value if you want to buy a new EV.
Thanks
Will check with the dealer tomorrow
When you say that my service has to be before 3/31. I'm currently in STL so can the service be done here in STL or does it have to be only in TX for me to claim a state EV tax credit?
 

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for purchase I follow this link https://electrek.co/best-electric-vehicle-prices/

For lease I follow this link http://ev-vin.blogspot.com/2016/07/current-lease-offers-for-selected-evs.html

I am not exactly following your questions, what is STL? (St. Louis?) what is your "service"?

For the federal tax credit the vehicle must have a sale date and be placed in service before the end of the month for the full amount, $7500. You can make the transaction remote and have someone else pick up the car or have the dealer hold it for you, but the transaction must complete.

If you have the vehicle to trade and can make the deal on the Bolt wherever you are, as long as the state vehicle registration (Plates) are transferred to the new vehicle you should be OK, but confirm with the dealer, and get it in writing. IE your state may have a requirement that the vehicle must be purchased in the same state, most states only care that the state tax is paid on the transaction, not the dealer location.

Since a Camaro is a GM product, you would not qualify for conquest cash. it must be "Non GM" to qualify.
 

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For the Texas credit, it may be taken right off the purchase price but I'm in NY so ??? In my case, it was taken off the original purchase price before the sales tax was calculated which is another $160 savings.
This is a continuing point of confusion here. Apparently, some states have a cash rebate which directly reduces the purchase price. Others, including WA, only have a sales tax credit, which reduces the tax added on after the sale. We've had a few math/logic-challenged here who were subtracting a sales tax credit from the selling price.

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This is a continuing point of confusion here. Apparently, some states have a cash rebate which directly reduces the purchase price. Others, including WA, only have a sales tax credit, which reduces the tax added on after the sale. We've had a few math/logic-challenged here who were subtracting a sales tax credit from the selling price.

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No confusion in Arizona. They don't offer any credits. :mad:

They did offer $28 per year plates in 2018. Not sure what is happening in 2019.
 

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Don't assume you'll get the full federal tax credit, there's lots of caveats.

Do make sure you will get your state credit. Hauling is about $1/mile if you need long distance transport.

Bolts are only 5-6k off msrp in MN now, so 10k off is a great deal.
 

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"Placed in service" means that the car was delivered to you - not just on order. It must be a new, not used car.

The federal tax credit drops from $7500 to $3750 on April 1, 2019 for all Chevrolets. On October 1, 2019, the federal tax credit will drop to $1875. On April 1, 2020, the credit will disappear - unless Congress extends it. There is a bill in the House sponsored entirely by Democrats to extend the credit to all manufacturers for 10 years regardless of how many they sell. There is a bill in the Senate sponsored by a Republican Senator from Wyoming to immediately cancel the credit. Who will win? The President has hinted he would veto any extension. The House is unlikely to cancel the existing credit.

The tax must be used in the tax year you bought the car in. It cannot be carried over to a subsequent year. Thus, if you buy the car in 2019, you must claim it in your 2019 taxes and have enough tax liability to use it. So, for example, if your federal tax owed was only $6000, you only get $6000 in credit. They will not pay you for any excess. I made sure I had enough liability by taking out some money from an IRA I inherited. The good thing is that they will apply the credit against the liability first - before any withholding or other tax credits - like rooftop solar. For me, I'll get a refund of my entire withholding, plus a large credit for next year because the solar credit can be carried into the next year.

In Colorado, the tax credit was $5000 in 2018 and I believe it is still $5000 in 2019. That law expires in 2020, but a new law is likely to pass (since the Democrats control both houses and the governor - and he owns a Leaf and is pro-EV*) that will extend the law into future years with a decreasing credit each year for the next 5 years. (I think the bill drops the credit by $1000 each year.) Like the federal, you have to claim the credit in the tax year you bought the car. Unlike the federal, you have to prove you bought the car and registered it Colorado. (You don't have to buy it in Colorado, just register it. I bought mine in OK since none were available in CO at the time.) Unlike the federal, you get the tax credit regardless of your tax liability. I didn't have $5000 in Colorado tax liability, so they will send me a check with the difference as a refund! On the down side, I stopped withholding Colorado taxes when I bought the Bolt, knowing I would have more credits than tax liability. Colorado didn't see it that way and charged me a tax penalty for not paying enough tax through the year as the credit wasn't applied until after the year was over.

*I should add that there is at least one Republican senator in Colorado who owns a Tesla and is very pro-EV. You only get to sponsor two bills per year per senator and he is sponsoring two EV bills this year: "Don't be a gashole!" which fines you for parking in a charging spot without charging; and a bill to allow electric utilities to own and operate charging stations - which current law forbids. I don't know if either bill will make it through - the legislative session ends May 3 and the Republicans are stalling all bills to keep a red-flag gun control bill and an oil & gas regulation bill from being passed.
 

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I should add that Colordao does charge $50/year for an EV to make up for lost gasoline taxes. Colorado's take on the gasoline tax is 22 cents per gallon. (The fed gets 18.4 cents.) $50 then covers 227 gallons of tax - from Colorado's perspective. My old ICE got about 23 mpg combined, so that would be 5221 miles of driving. I only drove about 5000 miles/year (and bicycled 5000 miles per year) so that covered what I would be paying the state in gas taxes. (The fed loses out, but oh well...)
 
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