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Yeah, a Tesla owner thought the same thing. $800 fine:
From: https://forums.tesla.com/forum/forums/hov-stickers-just-arrived-hesitating-put-them-car
CA HOV stickers - where to stick em ?
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Great link. I checked that one out and also found the same poster with violation had their own thread on the topic. It seems they were registered but had the paperwork and stickers in the glovebox, so they were displaying no stickers. This poster never did respond to questions about the fine and why it was $800. The normal first time violation for the HOV lane is only $491.
I have found that the California vehicle code that covers this is sections 21655.9 and sub section 5205.5. However nowhere on the web can I find the fines for violating these sections of the vehicle code. They really don't want the public knowing in advance what your fine is going to be.
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If it's anything like a cell phone ticket (my sister got one), the base ticket price gets loaded with tons of fees. The $40 base price became $200 instantly.
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From my short investigation into this matter, I discovered that the fees and fines for most infractions and violations aren't listed anywhere online. You can find all the laws and regulations, just not the penalties. What they're going to charge you seems to either be a closely held secret, or they just plain make it up.
Yeah, there's a few CHiPpies around Dublin/San Ramon/Pleasanton area that get a tad Narked if you don't have your HOV stickers in the right places per the diagram they send with them. must be a bad donut day thang...
I must admit the stickers suck. Such a pity Chevy cant have that painted on for each one at the factory, I mean why does it have to be a state thing? It should be a federal\National everywhere thing.
We need to get rid of the EPA and get rid of this 50 separate standards gubbins we are subject to. A single American Bureau of Standards (ABS) is what we need to replace this state by state insanity. Same for 50 different DMV's.
its madness I tell ya!!!
I must admit the stickers suck. Such a pity Chevy cant have that painted on for each one at the factory, I mean why does it have to be a state thing? It should be a federal\National everywhere thing.
We need to get rid of the EPA and get rid of this 50 separate standards gubbins we are subject to. A single American Bureau of Standards (ABS) is what we need to replace this state by state insanity. Same for 50 different DMV's.
its madness I tell ya!!!
They don't list the penalty because it's different in every city/county/area. I drive from Fullerton through Santa Ana to Costa Mesa for work, and each area of the freeway system has a different minimum penalty. Then of course they tack on however much the additional processing fees and taxes are.
Hi all.
I just got my stickers last night and I installed them on the plastic part of the bumper, not the paint. One thing I noticed is that I can actually peel the sticker back off, pretty easily. I don't know if they will stick a bit better when the sun hits the bumper and warms the adhesive, but if they are still easy to peel after tomorrow I am going to have to move them to the painted part of the bumper.
For the guys that installed them on the black part, did you have any issues with the stickers going through a wash, etc?
Thanks!
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I just got my stickers last night and I installed them on the plastic part of the bumper, not the paint. One thing I noticed is that I can actually peel the sticker back off, pretty easily. I don't know if they will stick a bit better when the sun hits the bumper and warms the adhesive, but if they are still easy to peel after tomorrow I am going to have to move them to the painted part of the bumper.
For the guys that installed them on the black part, did you have any issues with the stickers going through a wash, etc?
Thanks!
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I likewise placed mine (just yesterday) upon the painted surface rather than on the lower plastic bumper, only because it took a month to get them out of DMV, and another forum member mentioned how they fell off his plastic bumper and he had to re-order them.
i think the fact that you could even take them off without damaging them means it's a good thing you did - they're really supposed to be single-application (can't have people stealing them), so they probably would have come off the black bumper eventually.Thanks Bolt Action. I just went out and moved them on to the painted surface. I hate trying to get all of them to look even... never happy with how they turn out
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Mine are on the black / unpainted area and are just fine.
I did clean off very well with soap and water and they were applied in summer (even then they took a couple of days to actually really stick on )
Thinking if you cleaned the area and put some heat on with a hair dryer that you could cure them to stick better than doing this in the cold.
I did clean off very well with soap and water and they were applied in summer (even then they took a couple of days to actually really stick on )
Thinking if you cleaned the area and put some heat on with a hair dryer that you could cure them to stick better than doing this in the cold.
New CA Stickers are Red
I bought my Bolt in January and just received the stickers in the mail. They are now Red! Good thing I didn't pick the color of my car to match the sticker.
It sounds like it is currently a mystery as to what will happen after Jan 1, 2019. Currently green, white and red are all set to expire on that day.
I bought my Bolt in January and just received the stickers in the mail. They are now Red! Good thing I didn't pick the color of my car to match the sticker.
It sounds like it is currently a mystery as to what will happen after Jan 1, 2019. Currently green, white and red are all set to expire on that day.
Red stickers expire on Jan 1 2022. If you got a white sticker in 2017 or 2018, you will be able to get a red sticker later in the year (process TBD) https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/fact-sheets/californias-clean-air-decals
Starting in 2019, the stickers will be good for 3 years, so we'll get new colors for a few years. All stickers will expire in 2025 though (unless the law is changed again).
Starting in 2019, the stickers will be good for 3 years, so we'll get new colors for a few years. All stickers will expire in 2025 though (unless the law is changed again).
Sperling3, I'm betting that kilborn's are good until 1/1/22. The CARB website doesn't say anything specifically about *red* decals. Perhaps they've simply run out of white ones, and it's cheaper to just start issuing red ones, which they allude to as being *new* decals, w/o mentioning color. ( I got white ones in January this year.) If this is the case, I suspect that kilborn's red decals will expire on 1/1/22, and any acquired after that date will expire on 1/1/25, unless the CA Legislature changes it's mind.
BTW, if CARB is issuing red ones instead of re-ordering a small number of white ones (at a larger expense due to the small number), they should be commended for saving taxpayers money.
BTW, if CARB is issuing red ones instead of re-ordering a small number of white ones (at a larger expense due to the small number), they should be commended for saving taxpayers money.
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From the link above, it sounds like people that have current white stickers now may, or may not be able to get the new stickers. I guess they are still arguing about the rules. I guess we wait and see. Boy am I glad I didn't put all three stickers on the car now!! :laugh:
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