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It's all the fault of the cows. Methane. Ban cows.

Oh, wait, that's *totally* off-topic (Cadillac EVs). Sorry.
 

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What I want to know is, how do you cool motors/electronics in a vacuum? Conduction and convection are how we deal with it on earth, but in space you've only got radiation as a way to dissipate heat. It's like running a motor inside a double-walled vacuum insulated coffee cup. Everything exposed to the sun will be at about 250 F and everything in the shade at -450 F. Talk about preconditioning your battery.
 

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Although the majority of the discussion has been about Cadillac and their potential models/marketing, a few posters have referred to the upcoming Bolt EVs that seem more likely to be released before the Cadillac models. In the following article, there were references to models from Chevrolet within the next 18 months. The article release date was 11/15/2017!

https://electrek.co/2017/11/15/gm-electric-vehicles-crossover-minivan-corvette/

Along with other posters, I have never found the Cadillac offerings to suit my taste. It sounds like GM will be spreading the EVs around, so I am looking forward to additional models in the near future. Although most of my vehicles have been manufactured by "foreign" companies in the past (if there is such a thing as domestic or foreign anymore), I am very happy with the Bolt and will be looking for a slightly larger cross-over/SUV type vehicle with a longer-range and decreased charging times. I wish we knew more about these upcoming models.
 

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...references to models from Chevrolet within the next 18 months. The article release date was 11/15/2017!
So June 2019 if that was real. I don't think there has been any news since.
My Subaru Outback will turn 20 years old in June. Hopefully it will last long enough to be replaced by a similar EV. It looks and runs like new but I haven't spent the $1500 for the overdue timing belt (interference engine) or needed the separate $1500 head gasket job that these were known for. Or any transmission issues yet ..... If it weren't for the 24mpg I would keep it forever but that's just not acceptable today. It has been semi-retired for a decade but I occasionally need the hauling capacity (photo) or cargo space.

Hurry up Buick or whatever that June EV is going to be!

What's going on with Tesla's mini-suv based on Model 3? Vaporware?
 

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So June 2019 if that was real. I don't think there has been any news since.
My Subaru Outback will turn 20 years old in June. Hopefully it will last long enough to be replaced by a similar EV. It looks and runs like new but I haven't spent the $1500 for the overdue timing belt (interference engine) or needed the separate $1500 head gasket job that these were known for. Or any transmission issues yet ..... If it weren't for the 24mpg I would keep it forever but that's just not acceptable today. It has been semi-retired for a decade but I occasionally need the hauling capacity (photo) or cargo space.

Hurry up Buick or whatever that June EV is going to be!

What's going on with Tesla's mini-suv based on Model 3? Vaporware?
The Model Y should be with us in the Musk year of 2019 (= mid-2020 in the Gregorean calendar).

As per Forbes in Nov 2017, "The first two EVs will be launched in the next 18 months, GM said, and will be based off learnings from the Chevrolet Bolt EV". This might have been in reference to the Buick Velite 6 for China. I don't know where the Velite 6 stands now, and whether it will come to the US - probably not.
 

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My Subaru Outback will turn 20 years old in June. Hopefully it will last long enough to be replaced by a similar EV. It looks and runs like new but I haven't spent the $1500 for the overdue timing belt (interference engine) or needed the separate $1500 head gasket job that these were known for.
Way OT, but these pre-2008 POS are ubiquitous here in the frozen northwest. Yes, Subies usually lose the head gasket between 80,000 - 100,000 miles. FWIW, you are going to the wrong Subie shop. The local repair shop has done so many, they can pull both heads, leave the valves and springs in place, bring them to us for pressure testing and resurfacing. If neither head is cracked, they get them back in thirty minutes. They'll install a new timing belt and the heads are back on the car for pickup at 5:00 P.M., for less than $1,500.

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So June 2019 if that was real. I don't think there has been any news since.
Hurry up Buick or whatever that June EV is going to be!
Yeah, this is what I mentioned back on post 36

I hope they have not been canceled and we have some new EV's from GM, available in the USA this year, but I would have expected the LA,CES, or NAIAS is where they would have been shown. This picture is what was in the original slide deck
 

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The news about Cadillac and Bev 3 platform makes me wonder what's going to happen to Bolt? Has anyone heard any news about refresh for model year 2020?
 

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The news about Cadillac and Bev 3 platform makes me wonder what's going to happen to Bolt? Has anyone heard any news about refresh for model year 2020?
I haven't, but from what I remember reading in the past, the Bolt would exist until 2022-23 in pretty much the same form as it has so far. If any direct descendants of the Bolt are [still] intended for China, they would almost certainly be made in China by JV's - which most likely means we will not see them in North America.

Here is a funny situation: In 2017, GM had 3 plugs on the US market: the Spark EV for a compliance car, the Volt as the first mid-market EREV, and the Bolt as the first mid-market "long range" BEV.

In just few weeks GM will have only one plug left: the Bolt. Will the Bolt assume the role of the compliance car? Given that the Sonic is getting chopped, will the Orion plant continue @ 50% capacity, or will it transition to 100% Bolts, with the view to ship the likely surplus abroad? Or would it make more sense to move the Bolt production to Korea, where most of its value is generated anyway?

The advent of a whole bunch of newer EV's in 2019 and 2020 may either relegate the Bolt to the role of a compliance car, or quite the opposite - bring on board hundreds of thousands of new buyers, who previously ignored the electric car as a species, some of whom will be interested in the Bolt.
 

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Here is a funny situation: In 2017, GM had 3 plugs on the US market: the Spark EV for a compliance car, the Volt as the first mid-market EREV, and the Bolt as the first mid-market "long range" BEV.
The last model year for the Spark EV was 2016. It wasn't produced in 2017 (or even the last part of 2016). The Spark EV was killed before any Bolt was sold. Any sales after Nov or Dec of 2016 were just left-over, unsold inventory that they got rid of.
 

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Here's the latest on the Cadillac BEV's

Lyric set to be released in 2022, Celestiq in 2025.
Rumors taken from the July issue of R&T but the starting price of the Celestiq at $200,000. Hand built, very small numbers. Competing with Rolls and Bentley.
 
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