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CCS infrastructure?

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The Tesla supercharge stations are all across the U.S. from sea to shining sea. Tesla has invested heavily in the DCFC infrastructure structure preparing for the model 3 release. They charge at 80KW and can add 200 miles in 30 minutes. The Bolt can also charge at 80 kilowatts but there are no CCS stations that will do this. And there are lots of 300+ mile gaps out in the Midwest making long distance trips impossible at the present.

The CCS standard is well established, so what is holding up the expansion of the infrastructure and following the example of Tesla?
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also I believe the Chevy Bolt is currently limited to 60,000 watts - not 80,000 - 80 may be possible, but Chevy hasn't chosen to enable it - I welcome correction with source of evidence.

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I thought the Bolt was maxed out at 50 kW DCFC. Even with the manual's numbers, it says 90 miles are added in 30 minutes.

Wouldn't an 80 kW DCFC station mean that in an hour, it delivers 80 kW to a car that can handle it? So if the Bolt did allow for 30 mins of peak DCFC charging rate at 80 kW/hr, wouldn't that mean 40 kW could be delivered which is 2/3 * 238 mi = 158 mi delivered in 30 mins?
At the present I don't think anyone knows what the Max DC charge capacity of the Bolt is, because there are no CCS DCFC stations over 50 kW. And most of the CCS stations are only putting out 24 kW DC at ridiculously high rates.

Your math is correct excluding the tapering off factor. At 80kw including the tapering off I think a Bolt at 10% SOC could be 90% SOC charged in an hour. This is what the Tesla EV's are doing on the supercharger stations.

Tesla is planning to upgrade to 150 KW DC charging and when they do I sure hope they will make an adapter for CCS EVS. Short of this adapter I don't see the CCS infrastructure coming anywhere close to the Tesla Supercharger infrastructure in the near future. And this is the only glaring negative feature that I see in the Bolt EV experience.
I say Elon further upset the established auto makers and start providing adapters (sell them or install them at the Tesla chargers) and allow credit card payments at the chargers. Then, charge non-Teslas a higher rate per kWh delivered but not as egregious as evGo or Greenlots. If this were possible, I'm sure many more people would take road trips along Tesla-covered routes knowing they can charge. Even at a higher rate, it's a once-in-a-while cost unless you road strip every weekend.
Right on!! I'll venture a guess that the established car manufacturers do not want to see a mass exodus to EV's and will only slowly transition away from Big Oil. Elon Musk is a Visionary and doesn't have this conflict of interest.

VW has already started building a national DCFC infrastructure starting with the East and West Coastal corridors. I'm so looking forward to 80kw CCS fast charging and traveling to the Midwest so I can show off my Bolt LT to my other family members!
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