Yep, its totally fine for my short daily commute (16mi RT). Longer winter road trips, over ~150mi, are a bit of a hassle compared to an ICE though.
Chevy Bolt rated worse winter EV by recurrent
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In a Bolt I think I could handle up to 300 miles -- one long stop somewhere in the middle. Beyond that I would take my P2, but other than when I was much younger, I rarely drive more than that anywhere.
So far, it's mostly been older ICE "hot rodders". Local guy works for the electric company, friends with the local car club president, a few others and I usually get invited to the weekly car show to show off the EV. And every week, the same batch of clowns come down to talk us down, tell us how bad of a decision we made, etc.etc.etc. And every week it's the same thing...I win the discussion. Every **** weekOil companies
I guess I'm lucky...I only take my car to EV shows 😂So far, it's mostly been older ICE "hot rodders". Local guy works for the electric company, friends with the local car club president, a few others and I usually get invited to the weekly car show to show off the EV. And every week, the same batch of clowns come down to talk us down, tell us how bad of a decision we made, etc.etc.etc. And every week it's the same thing...I win the discussion. Every **** week
Took mine to a Cars & Coffee last fall. Was one of 2 EVs there (the other was a F150 that left early). Lots of interesting olde stuff there, but I didn't get much disparaging - only some interest. Oh yes, and unlike the Ford, when I opened the hood, there was stuff there to talk about other than luggage space. And (lack of) stupid high price.So far, it's mostly been older ICE "hot rodders". Local guy works for the electric company, friends with the local car club president, a few others and I usually get invited to the weekly car show to show off the EV. And every week, the same batch of clowns come down to talk us down, tell us how bad of a decision we made, etc.etc.etc. And every week it's the same thing...I win the discussion. Every **** week
Funny how that concept translates.
Yes! To see other EVs, swap stories, and educated future EV owners who are curious. But no, we only rarely compare pecker sizes 🤣
I think it's OK to acknowledge that the Bolt's loss of range in the winter is among the worst for EVs. It's not just Recurrent (although they are most frequently cited) - another is AAA. The main culprit is HVAC:
Without HVAC, range loss from 75 F to 20 F:
BMW i3: 20%
Nissan Leaf: 10%
Chevy Bolt: 10%
Tesla Model S: 11%
VW e-Golf: 7%
With HVAC, range loss from 75 F to 20 F:
BMW i3: 50%
Bolt: 47%
Nisan Leaf: 31%
Tesla Model S: 38%
VW e-Golf: 36%
AAA: https://www.aaa.com/AAA/common/AAR/files/AAA-Electric-Vehicle-Range-Testing-Report.pdf
What would be helpful for consumers is for the EPA to require standardized winter range reporting for EVs, similar to what South Korea apparently requires:
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Without HVAC, range loss from 75 F to 20 F:
BMW i3: 20%
Nissan Leaf: 10%
Chevy Bolt: 10%
Tesla Model S: 11%
VW e-Golf: 7%
With HVAC, range loss from 75 F to 20 F:
BMW i3: 50%
Bolt: 47%
Nisan Leaf: 31%
Tesla Model S: 38%
VW e-Golf: 36%
AAA: https://www.aaa.com/AAA/common/AAR/files/AAA-Electric-Vehicle-Range-Testing-Report.pdf
What would be helpful for consumers is for the EPA to require standardized winter range reporting for EVs, similar to what South Korea apparently requires:
Projected EV range 238 in brand new 2020 Bolt
Hi, We bought a 2020 Bolt Premium today and just plugged it in for the first time. This is our first EV. I am a little confused because on the Target Charge Level screen it says "Projected EV Range: 238 mi". I expected this to say 259 mi as this is a 2020 Bolt. Are we misunderstanding how this...
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Wow, I think you are a brave individual. I don't think N. Dakota is very friendly toward EVs. When I was little my parents lived in Stanton. Whereabouts are you?
I'm in Minot. Vast majority of the clowns I talk to that immediately 'don't like EVs because' this/that/the-other...almost immediately change their mind when I tell them that there's exactly 13 moving parts between the motor and the 4 wheels...including the 4 wheels.
Side note...I just drove by Stanton yesterday coming back from Beulah.
Minot...the big city
. I worked with a good friend from Bowman.
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Minot, the magic city.Minot...the big city
I am from western part of state and ill agree that pretty much majority have no open mind to evs in most of northern states, even where i work my fellow techs will give me the worst razing over driving my Bolt. I drive farther and usually beet them all to work in bad weather. Have to charge at home or work because our charging infastructure is pretty much nill. I think everything west of Fargo has no more then 50 kw chargers and only one per city or town
I've been searching all the small towns when I'm out and about for at least L2/NEMA14-50 charging opportunities at city parks, etc. I put most of what's on plugshare for the northern half at least, and a fair amount in the southern half and a lot of western SD and eastern MT as well. Not that L2 is where it's at, but if a guy screws himself, at least there's a way out.
Take a big dog. along , heats the cabin you can get a longer range ...
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