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Comparing the Bolt to the Audi is wrought with complexity. We have one of each. If you can afford the Audi, go for it. Be advised that they are very heavy, and the range lacks as a result.
In the summer, we could get 300 city miles in the Bolt, and maybe 200 in the e-tron, despite the 95kWH battery.
 

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If the lemon laws had any effect towards our odds of a buy back option, illinois would be at the bottom of the list. Our state has the absolute worst lemon laws in the U.S.! I'm from Illinois also and did contact GM. So far, nobody has called me back. But even if/when I might talk to somebody, I doubt they'll do anything. FYI...in Illinois, lemon law applies to new cars within the first year or 12000 miles only.
Thanks for the info. There are now several class action lawsuits in the US for the battery problem. One filed by Illinois residents.
 

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If you can afford the Audi, go for it.
IMHO, if you have your retirement savings in order and can very easily afford the Audi and it will provide significant additional satisfaction from owning it, then go for it.

That's what was probably intended by "if you can afford the Audi", but some people see that as "if you can somehow make the monthly payment then you should do it".
 

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Thanks for the info. There are now several class action lawsuits in the US for the battery problem. One filed by Illinois residents.
Yeah. I think a lot of these lucky people that received a buy back are mostly from California, where the lemon laws are way more consumer friendly. Yes, everybody says that the lemon laws don't apply to this situation, but I think they hold power. Anyways, I hope the lawsuits do something. It's going to leave a bad taste in my mouth if GM comes up with some type of "SW" fix. Either buy back my car or replace the battery pack completely. UGH
 

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How long before people heard directly from a 'buyback specialist'? I've been in contact with someone from Chevrolet Customer Assistance (I'll leave out their name here) and have been told that my case is being considered by a buyback specialist for about two weeks now. I'm told that 'he' is swamped and considering the case. I've sent in all paperwork that they asked for. Starting to wonder if I'm getting the runaround, and they're just buying time.
 

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Hi Everyone - Recall just got updated with: "A team of GM engineers has made substantial progress in identifying the root cause and potential remedies for this issue. They are in the process of validating state-of-the-art software that can diagnose potential issues early and restore 100% charge capability. A final remedy for this recall is anticipated for April 2021. Until that time, if you have not already done so, we recommend scheduling a service appointment with your dealership to update the vehicle’s battery software to automatically limit the maximum state of charge to 90 percent."

I am still talking about a trade with them but it seems like a solution is around the corner. This is posted on: Learn About
 

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Sorry, i just don't understand this righteous indignation about this and having Chevy buy it back. It is a perfectly functional car its not a lemon by any stretch of the imagination. I have a 2017 LT and its technically under recall and have no plans to do the recall or be worried at all. The chances of your car burning are probably as likely as you winning the lottery and getting stuck by lighting on the same day, infinitesimal. Its the same mentality of people sending back food at a restaurant if its not perfect. Man, just buck up and eat it, my steak would have to be **** near burnt to a crisp before i would send back any food. I mean you realize that when you send food back the cooks spit and rub their balls on it right? Its just not worth the hassle.

You tossed away a perfectly good car because it wasn't perfect.
 

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How long before people heard directly from a 'buyback specialist'? I've been in contact with someone from Chevrolet Customer Assistance (I'll leave out their name here) and have been told that my case is being considered by a buyback specialist for about two weeks now. I'm told that 'he' is swamped and considering the case. I've sent in all paperwork that they asked for. Starting to wonder if I'm getting the runaround, and they're just buying time.
You didn't get Ferris, did you?
 

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Sorry, i just don't understand this righteous indignation about this and having Chevy buy it back. It is a perfectly functional car its not a lemon by any stretch of the imagination. I have a 2017 LT and its technically under recall and have no plans to do the recall or be worried at all. The chances of your car burning are probably as likely as you winning the lottery and getting stuck by lighting on the same day, infinitesimal. Its the same mentality of people sending back food at a restaurant if its not perfect. Man, just buck up and eat it, my steak would have to be **** near burnt to a crisp before i would send back any food. I mean you realize that when you send food back the cooks spit and rub their balls on it right? Its just not worth the hassle.

You tossed away a perfectly good car because it wasn't perfect.
No I tossed away a mostly good car because I could get enough $$s to buy two of them.
 

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Thanks for sharing your experience! I hope the process will be wrapped up for me in the next two weeks...the next 10 days or so if I am lucky. Also in Merryland. In MD at least those who paid more for the car will get more. 2017 owners will get the most because the vehicles were not really discounted at all when they first came out. Those with 2019 models who had a lot of incentives will get the least out of the buyback.

I have a deposit on a LR AWD Model Y lease. I have had several VW over the years and have considered the ID.4 however the configuration I want will not be available until June at the earliest and I can't wait that long. I like my Bolt but I need something with more space and very much prefer something that is going to be updated regularly via OTA updates which is why I am jumping on the model Y. I will post my experience as well once everything is completed for me, but, because GM using using the lemon laws in each state I don't think we will really see any variation in the results. States with poor lemon law protections will be the worst and vv.
I just deposited the check from the buyback of my 2017 orange Chevy Bolt Premier with about 40,000 miles after spending about 2 months of the process. I started the process shortly after the new year by calling Chey's general number posted online and ended up with a customer care specialist. This specialist was very attentive and contacted me every few days with updates on where things were at. I had to provide my title, registration and something called a buyers order. I did not have this but me dealer had it and provided it. After all the paperwork was sorted in was transferred to a group in Saginaw MI that performs the next step. The title of the person helping me was a re-purchase coordinator. He pulled together the offer which was based on the lemon law for my state (although the car did not qualify as a lemon under the law. After re-sending all the paperwork to him, he send me a written offer. The offer in my state (MD) was the the base price plus title and fees plus state fees plus sales tax. incentives and a usage fee (capped at 15%) were subtracted. The settlement amount was ~mid thirties and did not consider that I also received the full 7500 federal rebate and a 2000 state rebate. Chevy was very professional and my main talking points early on were only :

1. I paid for a full battery pack not a 95% battery pack
2. I refuse to have the dealer limit my charge level
3. I will accept any solution that results in a full battery capacity or a buy back but have no interest in trading car + cash for a new vehicle.
4. This is my second GM EV purchased new in the past 7 years, both were purchased new.

So what to buy next? I really don't need a car until post covid vaccination so I'm not in a rush. I have my eyes on a few models not out yet that I cannot objectively evaluate but here are my thoughts....I"m a hatchback guy

#1. A new chevy bolt, fully loaded with the larger 259 mile battery. The Chevy is a great option for me if they are discounted at least 20K. That is about where they are at now (mid twenties) and I expect more discounting over the next few months. As long as I have an alterative car for long trips, I consider the Bolt to be near ideal for around town.
#2 The Lyriq: Sounds like a big step up, its still a hatchback and will offer a really nice screen, good range, faster charging and a bit nicer interior. I Dont know if I can wait long enough, I will need a car end of summerish.
#3 Ariya: Should be out soon and looks like a decent hatchback. I'd need the bigger battery. Looks like they have embraced important issues like
CCS charging and a liquid cooled battery.
#4 A few others that can't be driven right now are on my mind
#5 Model Y: Available now, and hopefully they have their fit/finish under control. I'm not a fan of only having a big center screen and the subscription based premium entertainment). This seems like an easy default choice.
#6 Ford Mustang EV: I need to drive this one before I judge too harshly, but in general it sounds a bit too heavy, and the center screen, ugly square dash doesn't do much for me. I'm focusing on the CA edition

I'm also intrigued by the new Audi GT, I find this more attractive than the Porsche.
I also contacted the phone number and asked about a buyback. For me it is not possible as I did not purchase it from a GM dealer. I bought a used 2017 Bolt from a independent dealer. GM offered me a Car Rental at their expense. I am in the process of procuring that. Here is what was said about when the recall will be fixed. I received this response 2/19/2021:

The dealership should be reaching out to you in the near future to discus the loaner vehicle. I did want to give you an update as well about the final fix on the recall. A team of GM engineers has made substantial progress in identifying the root cause and potential remedies for this issue. They are in the process of validating state-of-the-art software that can diagnose potential issues early and restore 100% charge capability. A final remedy for this recall is anticipated forApril 2021.
 

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Given Hyundai's fiery experience with a software fix in their Kona, I am quite disappointed at GM's apparent insistence on trying the same thing. GM is well aware of the Hundai disaster, and they should know better than to repeat that failure. "State of the art" software in the absence of sensors that will tell that software what it needs to know (e.g. growth of dendrites, penetration of separators, etc.) won't do them, or us, any good at all.
 

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The dealer that completed my buy back is selling my old car for ~15,500 or so. Its Chriswell in Gaithersburg MD. Let me know if you want the history but it is a pretty good deal for a loaded '17 with 40K on the clock.
 

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The dealer that completed my buy back is selling my old car for ~15,500 or so. Its Chriswell in Gaithersburg MD. Let me know if you want the history but it is a pretty good deal for a loaded '17 with 40K on the clock.
Wait how are they selling it? Isn't there a stop sale on the vehicles until the final fix is out?
 

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The dealer that completed my buy back is selling my old car for ~15,500 or so. Its Chriswell in Gaithersburg MD. Let me know if you want the history but it is a pretty good deal for a loaded '17 with 40K on the clock.
You should buy it back. :cool:
 

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That's awesome. Lol
Would basically be $20k in your pocket courtesy of GM.
Almost worth it for the story. I'm about to move cross country (MD to TX) and that drive in a Bolt is not really my idea of fun or else I likely would pull the trigger. I think there are better EVs than the Bolt, but when GM is dealing it is a great value.
 

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Sorry, i just don't understand this righteous indignation about this and having Chevy buy it back. It is a perfectly functional car its not a lemon by any stretch of the imagination. I have a 2017 LT and its technically under recall and have no plans to do the recall or be worried at all. The chances of your car burning are probably as likely as you winning the lottery and getting stuck by lighting on the same day, infinitesimal. Its the same mentality of people sending back food at a restaurant if its not perfect. Man, just buck up and eat it, my steak would have to be **** near burnt to a crisp before i would send back any food. I mean you realize that when you send food back the cooks spit and rub their balls on it right? Its just not worth the hassle.

You tossed away a perfectly good car because it wasn't perfect.
Say you rent your home. The landlord contacts you one day and says that a room in your unit “could catch fire” if anything is stored in it. The landlord is mandating that you remove all belongings and they’ll be condemning the access for several months. This reduces your usable space in the home by roughly 10%. Now, this is a substantial modification of you lease terms, which was based on usage of the whole property. Should you have to keep paying the full rent?

The above is just a hypothetical scenario to illustrate my thinking. It’s entirely your right to hold your opinion. Mine is that I’ve now spent three months driving a car which is operating at a limited range relative to the deal I made with Chevrolet ( I lease, didn’t want to buy this car). There should be compensation for this.

Now regarding the fires. Yup, it’s a minuscule chance that it happens to your car. But you really want to play those odds? My Bolt lives immediately under my house. Directly beneath my and my son’s bedrooms. Even that aside. If you don’t take the car in to have the recall performed, good luck dealing with your home or renter’s insurance if any fire, even unrelated to the battery pack, occurs. That’ll be a quick conversation:
Insurer: “so there was a recall on the vehicle that caught fire, correct”?
Owner: “yes”
Insurer: “and which dealer performed that and at what date”?
Owner: “I didn’t take it in, but I set the car to 90% charging limit”
Insurer: “Oh...can you show me where that change is logged, or tracked”?
Owner: ...

Just saying. It’s a can of worms when it comes to liability. Chevy should be doing everything in their power to make this right by owners who feel uncomfortable or slighted by the situation. If you’re not one of those owners, then good on you and all the easier for GM!
 

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Sorry, i just don't understand this righteous indignation about this and having Chevy buy it back.
I think it can be appropriate depending on people's circumstances. There's also still a lot of uncertainty. I, for one, am still on the fence with the alleged fix.

I need the range and I drive at high speeds through areas with little to no reception. If we get a warning does that mean it's safe to drive to a dealer or do we have to park it right away? What if the dealer's closed and I now have a car that I can't charge to go to work the next day.

Comparing this with winning the lottery isn't accurate. We only know of a number of fires because those people managed to meet the criteria for the fire to start (i.e. winning numbers). We don't know what the winning numbers are.

Besides, people win the lottery all the time. The difference, like kendallg noted, is that you're risking lives and property. Would people still play the lottery if you could win a million and had an equal (albeit low) chance of killing your family?
 
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