Electric Auto Association Petitions for Mammoth Lake Public Chargers

Paul Gipe · Sep 9, 2018

Raejean Fellows, president of the Electric Auto Association, has begun a petition calling on the Mammoth Lakes ski resort to install public EV charging for its non-Tesla customers driving electric.

The petition, Help Mammoth Lakes get Non-Tesla Charging Installed, can be found on the web site of Change.org.

There is a Tesla supercharger station in Mammoth Lakes and four resort hotels have Tesla destination chargers. The hotels also have J1772 EVSEs for non-Tesla vehicles. However, the charge stations are reserved for hotel customers only.

There are no public charge stations, either J1772, or DC fast chargers, for non-Tesla vehicles in Mammoth Lakes, or anywhere else on US 395 from Mojave, California to Bridgeport. Effectively, the region east of the Sierra Nevada is a charging desert for non-Tesla EVs.

Fellows added, "I, along with the Board of Directors, encourage your taking active steps to increase charging infrastructure where you see it is needed."

The Electric Auto Association was founded in 1967 and is an advocate for EVs in North America. It has 80 chapters in the USA and Canada.

psyflyjohn · Sep 9, 2018

Seems like having adequate chargers is a good basic business decision. Maybe they just don't care or need the money...

NewsCoulomb · Sep 10, 2018

I would reference Needles or Boulder City as examples. Installing four plus Level 2 AC chargers under a site covered with a solar panel canopy near Mammoth Lakes' concentration of hotels/motels and visitor center would bring in a significant amount of income as well as opening up the possibility of transitioning any city vehicles to plug ins.

Paul Gipe · Sep 11, 2018

NewsCoulomb said:
I would reference Needles or Boulder City as examples. Installing four plus Level 2 AC chargers under a site covered with a solar panel canopy near Mammoth Lakes' concentration of hotels/motels and visitor center would bring in a significant amount of income as well as opening up the possibility of transitioning any city vehicles to plug ins.

Jeff, I don't know how that petition got started. I have an idea, but I wasn't contacted about it, just rcvd an email after it was up. I support advocacy around EVs but prefer to limit myself to dealing with Sacramento--and that hasn't had any effect so far--or the occasional phone cal.

For us on this forum, it seems like a no-brainer. The rest of the world doesn't see it that way.

The L2 going in in Lee Vining is apparently a citizen-initiated action. None of us or the EAA had anything to do with it--though EAA is involved now.

Paul

Darren Donovan · Oct 2, 2018

paulgipe said:
Raejean Fellows, president of the Electric Auto Association, has begun a petition calling on the Mammoth Lakes ski resort to install public EV charging for its non-Tesla customers driving electric.

The petition, Help Mammoth Lakes get Non-Tesla Charging Installed, can be found on the web site of Change.org.

There is a Tesla supercharger station in Mammoth Lakes and four resort hotels have Tesla destination chargers. The hotels also have J1772 EVSEs for non-Tesla vehicles. However, the charge stations are reserved for hotel customers only.

There are no public charge stations, either J1772, or DC fast chargers, for non-Tesla vehicles in Mammoth Lakes, or anywhere else on US 395 from Mojave, California to Bridgeport. Effectively, the region east of the Sierra Nevada is a charging desert for non-Tesla EVs.

Fellows added, "I, along with the Board of Directors, encourage your taking active steps to increase charging infrastructure where you see it is needed."

The Electric Auto Association was founded in 1967 and is an advocate for EVs in North America. It has 80 chapters in the USA and Canada.

1967? I'm curious to find out how the EAA has been able to keep their members busy until recently.

BoltFan · Oct 2, 2018

Check I-5 north of Sacramento as well and see how many DCFCs are now dead in the water. Good luck getting to Oregon now.

NewsCoulomb · Oct 3, 2018

BoltFan said:
Check I-5 north of Sacramento as well and see how many DCFCs are now dead in the water. Good luck getting to Oregon now.

The 24 kW units (most of them) are shut down for some sort of recall. However, we still have three active 50 kW chargers along the route (Sac International Airport, Target in Redding, and Carl's Jr./McDonald's in Yreka). One more 50 kW charger looks like it is ready to activate in Mt. Shasta (not sure why the delay), as well as a couple of the 24 kW chargers still active (for sure the Carl's Jr. in Williams and apparently the Olive Pit in Corning).

SparkE · Oct 3, 2018

BoltFan said:
Check I-5 north of Sacramento as well and see how many DCFCs are now dead in the water. Good luck getting to Oregon now.

Well, from Medford, OR to San Francisco ...

Leave Medford full

~50 miles to Yreka (new 50 kW ChargePoint DCFC is up and running, 24 kW unit down)
~100 miles to Redding (from Yreka) - 50 kW ChargePoint DCFC is up
~50 miles from Redding to Corning (24 kW unit is *up*)
~55 miles from Corning to Williams (24 kW unit is *up*)
~60 miles from Williams to Vacaville (24 kW unit is *up*)
~45 miles from Vacaville to FREE 50 kW DCFC in Richmond, at the "Rosie the Riveter" museum
(Lots of DCFC units in the Bay Area, once you leave Vallejo)

Going to Sac, and not SF? Then skip Corning & Williams, and stop at the Sac airport DCFC.

So, it seems like Medford (full) -> stop in Redding (50 kW after 150 miles) -> stop in either Corning or Vacaville (24 kW after either 105 mi or 165 mi) -> stop in Richmond (50 kW, after 45 or 105 miles) with multiple safety backups along the way. And that's *ONLY* the ChargePoint units. Add in the EVgo fast chargers and the trip is more than just "doable".

NewsCoulomb · Oct 3, 2018

Vacaville Outlets also has a 50 kW EVgo DCFC, though it's not the most reliable unit either.

GregBrew · Oct 3, 2018

Darren Donovan said:
1967? I'm curious to find out how the EAA has been able to keep their members busy until recently.

Home-builts, mostly, until 1997. That's when things started to get really interesting, with factory-built compliance vehicles.

NewsCoulomb · Oct 3, 2018

GregBrew said:
Home-builts, mostly, until 1997. That's when things started to get really interesting, with factory-built compliance vehicles.

Yeah. I almost pulled the trigger on an old B-17 generator. I was going to retrofit a Willy's Jeep. Something about driving around in a WW2 tech all electric vehicle appealed to me. But I wasn't really a fan of the poteniometer.

GregBrew · Oct 3, 2018

NewsCoulomb said:
Yeah. I almost pulled the trigger on an old B-17 generator. I was going to retrofit a Willy's Jeep. Something about driving around in a WW2 tech all electric vehicle appealed to me. But I wasn't really a fan of the poteniometer.

Reminds me of the EV-1 where someone put two jet engines in the back for some extra "boost".

https://www.eanet.com/ev1-club/archive/990220/ejet.htm

NewsCoulomb · Oct 3, 2018

GregBrew said:
Reminds me of the EV-1 where someone put two jet engines in the back for some extra "boost".

https://www.eanet.com/ev1-club/archive/990220/ejet.htm

So that's where Tesla got the idea for the new Roadster.

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