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Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
First 350 kW charging station in U.S. is open. They are in MA and they opened on May 1st or 2nd.

https://insideevs.com/electrify-americas-first-350-kw-ultra-fast-charger-to-be-launched-on-april-25/

https://www.plugshare.com/location/152111

It is at Chicopee Marketplace (MA) and installed by Electrify America. There are 8 plugs, but only 4 can be used at the same time, so it is a 4-slot station.

Two CCS stations rated at 350 kW.
Two CCS stations rated at 150 kW.
There is also *one* CHAdeMO plug rated at 50 kW.

The company has said that they are limiting all the plugs to 50 kW at this point in time (most likely working out bugs). However, plugshare comments have mentioned Bolts charging at 54 - 56 kW (at under 50% SoC), and a Kia SOUL (CHAdeMO) charging at 68kW.

Edit: Yes, there is (was?) already mention of this on this thread:
http://www.chevybolt.org/forum/505-...c-charging-stations-walmarts-34-states-8.html

but I'm a one-topic-per-thread kind of guy, and the other thread was supposed to be about "Charging Stations At Walmarts " and is now filling up with political crap (all of which which really should be split out of the thread and moved to the "off topic" area, IMO).
 
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The Charging station in Baker, CA ("worlds tallest thermometer) still isn't on-line. It is now almost a year overdue (it was supposed to open in June '17). It is an EVgo spot that will charge at "up to 150 kW" and appear to be the ABB DCFCs installed in Fremont, CA (0-350A @ 200-600V). This station will allow easy EV travel between SoCal (anywhere <200 mi from Baker) and Las Vegas. Since L.A. has loads of DCFCs, a 2-DCFC trip to Vegas will be possible from San Diego or even Tijuana.
 

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So how does the Kia SOUL pull 68kW on a 50kW CHAdeMO? 50kW just a minimum spec depending on a lower voltage and current draw?
 

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So how does the Kia SOUL pull 68kW on a 50kW CHAdeMO? 50kW just a minimum spec depending on a lower voltage and current draw?
Better question is how does the several years old Soul EV charge FASTER than the new '18 Leaf? That is an embarrassment for Nissan.
 

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thermal management???
I believe the Soul EV is only air cooled. Though that is still superior to Nissan's no-TMS Leaf. Really blows the mind how Nissan didn't at least add active air cooling in the '18 Leaf. I feel for the poor sap driving a '18 Leaf on a road trip this summer in hot climates.
 

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I believe the Soul EV is only air cooled. Though that is still superior to Nissan's no-TMS Leaf. Really blows the mind how Nissan didn't at least add active air cooling in the '18 Leaf. I feel for the poor sap driving a '18 Leaf on a road trip this summer in hot climates.
Not according to a former Soul owner.

"Then I tried a 2015 KIA SOUL EV. It seemed ok for a year or so but then dropped 30 miles of range over night."

http://evworld.com/blogs.cfm?blogid=1463
 

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Also, the CEC (Calif Elec Comm) chargers that were approved and budgeted WELL OVER a year ago still haven't opened. Well, there is one in Redding (NorCal). They will create 50 kW (at a minimum), 2-plug (in most places) charging along the major freeways in the state, making EV road travel possible to almost anywhere in the state. (and it IS the third largest state in the nation, 800 miles N to S).

EVgo, on the other hand has gone on a Tesla-esque run this year of installing DCFCs in the state, for example making the drive from Sacramento to Reno, NV or to South lake Tahoe doable in a Spark EV (DCFCs every 30 miles or so).
 

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The CHAdeMO 'standard' always went up to 100 kW (well, in recent years - not the first one way back when).

There are a few vehicles that will pull more than 50 kW using CHAdeMO - the SOUL is one of them ('rated' up to 100kW, but generally pulling a max of around 70).

Edit: I would bet that the 50 kW CHAdeMO limit on this station is a software limit - the plug is on a 150 kW CCS unit. VW has NO business interest in installing rows of chargers for Japanese vehicles (or Teslas, now that a CHAdeMO adaptor is available). That they are installing one CHAdeMO plug at all is amazing (they are probably required to do so) but they have no reason to allow charging faster than 50 kW
 

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but I'm a one-topic-per-thread kind of guy, and the other thread was supposed to be about "Charging Stations At Walmarts " and is now filling up with political crap (all of which which really should be split out of the thread and moved to the "off topic" area, IMO).
I'm being pedantic and please take this as a joke, but there is a Walmart in the plaza with that charger. :)
 

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The Charging station in Baker, CA ("worlds tallest thermometer) still isn't on-line. It is now almost a year overdue (it was supposed to open in June '17). It is an EVgo spot that will charge at "up to 150 kW" and appear to be the ABB DCFCs installed in Fremont, CA (0-350A @ 200-600V). This station will allow easy EV travel between SoCal (anywhere <200 mi from Baker) and Las Vegas. Since L.A. has loads of DCFCs, a 2-DCFC trip to Vegas will be possible from San Diego or even Tijuana.
Yeah this is super annoying, especially since I plan to make that drive next month. I'm sure it will open a week after I make my trip.

Pictures on plugshare seem to indicate that the station is finally built but just not operational yet. Hopefully soon.
 

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Looks like the site in Memphis will be open soon... that will be the only CCS station within driving distance of my home, and it will open up the path East all the way to the Atlantic Ocean!

I really wish that the map was zoomable... if they are putting out the information, why make the map semi-useless by not letting us zoom in to see the planned routes?

Keith
 

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Looks like the new EA stations in Fincastle, VA are (mostly) operational. Reports are the UI is still a bit buggy, but a Tesla owner said they successfully charged after contacting customer support.
https://www.plugshare.com/location/146815


Again, another 3x dedicated CCS/1x shared CCS/CHAdeMO setup. EA is treating CHAdeMO like the red headed stepchild.
 

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Again, another 3x dedicated CCS/1x shared CCS/CHAdeMO setup. EA is treating CHAdeMO like the red headed stepchild.
At this point CHAdeMO is pretty much just a Nissan proprietary system here in the U.S. so I don't see why they should invest in supporting it. Every new EV that supports DCFC that isn't a Nissan or Tesla will be using CCS. Wouldn't be surprised to see the 2020 Leaf switching to CCS at least for models sold outside of Japan.
 

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It is definitely out in the schticks.
It is on one of the busiest highways in Virginia. Unfortunately, it is stuck among a bunch of stations on the north half of the 440 mile highway from Maryland to Tennessee, and too far to reach Dandridge to the south, making it essentially useless!
 

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If you want to see how to do fast chargers right, check out the Superchargers on this same Maryland to Tennessee stretch!
 
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