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I was out with my wife on a little drive today about 150 mile round trip and thought I would scope out all the charger locations on the route. Low and behold at a dealership in Clarksburg, WV I found the first DCFC in the state so far.

It did not seem to be on yet, or are these only powered on during business hours? I know most people would not be too excited about this one, but it opens a whole new avenue for me. This makes it possible for me to drive the Bolt almost anywhere I go.
 

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I was out with my wife on a little drive today about 150 mile round trip and thought I would scope out all the charger locations on the route. Low and behold at a dealership in Clarksburg, WV I found the first DCFC in the state so far.

It did not seem to be on yet, or are these only powered on during business hours? I know most people would not be too excited about this one, but it opens a whole new avenue for me. This makes it possible for me to drive the Bolt almost anywhere I go.

Any idea who makes it? That's unlike any DCFC I've ever seen. Much smaller.
 

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This depends on the dealership. They may have put the charger in place to allow them to sell Bolts/Volts, and consequently minimize the prep time, and hence, they don’t wish to share it, and may disable it outside of business hours (electricity costs money!). Usage of a dealer charger is always worth an ask, especially if it allows you to expand your horizons in your Bolt (um, I’m planning on passing though the area, and. . .)! Considering that there are no DCFC in WV, you have to start somewhere WRT getting people interested in EVs. Makes me wish they had a donation slot nearby, since I’d gladly contribute to, or buy from a business that provides level 2 or faster power.
 

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This depends on the dealership. They may have put the charger in place to allow them to sell Bolts/Volts, and consequently minimize the prep time, and hence, they don’t wish to share it, and may disable it outside of business hours (electricity costs money!). Usage of a dealer charger is always worth an ask, especially if it allows you to expand your horizons in your Bolt (um, I’m planning on passing though the area, and. . .)! Considering that there are no DCFC in WV, you have to start somewhere WRT getting people interested in EVs. Makes me wish they had a donation slot nearby, since I’d gladly contribute to, or buy from a business that provides level 2 or faster power.
They are putting 3 L2 chargers in the town we spend most of our time in, I was able to talk to one of the council members and she said they are putting in antique meters for donation at them. I will use them a lot, and put change in them each time. I also reassured her that since they were near several businesses, it would encourage people to frequent them.
 

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Does anyone upload these DCFC's to plugshare? I looked at WV for CCS and it's a big hole. It kept me from driving from SC to Ohio a few months ago, had to take the gas car.
 

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I've noticed, too. that the City of Staunton, VA (I-81) now has two DCFC ports in one of their city parking lots, opening even more WV-VA territory for our Bolts.
The 50 kW public charger in Staunton has been there, and on Plugshare for over a year. It is a Greenlots. It is in a public lot, and the owner (presumably the city) charges for use. The other just showed up, and is a 25 kW unit at the Chevy dealer. I have noticed in the last month or so, a bunch of the GM dealer units have been showing up on Plugshare. No idea who is doing that...GM/dealers/advocates?
 

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Does anyone upload these DCFC's to plugshare? I looked at WV for CCS and it's a big hole. It kept me from driving from SC to Ohio a few months ago, had to take the gas car.
Yes, what is up with WV and Kentucky? I was planning a trip to South Bend, IN from SC and it's like a fast charging desert that's blocking the route.
 

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Yes, what is up with WV and Kentucky? I was planning a trip to South Bend, IN from SC and it's like a fast charging desert that's blocking the route.
I would have thought by now that the WV turnpike would have gotten in on the game... I mean why not encouage people to stop at the turnpike rest areas for 30-45 minutes.... captive audience buying food and drinks, right?

To sniggle slashdot...
1)install DCFC along I77 turnpike
2)retain a captive audience for 45 minutes
3)make them buy already high priced food
4)Profit
 

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I drive thought WV on I64 a few times a year. But not in the Bolt. I'd love see some chargers, but on 64 It wouldn't help much unless Kentucky got into the game too. It's a long desert and Electrify America seems to be avoiding it like the plague.
 

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WV is not friendly to EV's at all. There were no dealerships close to me selling them, and most of them viewed the bolt as something that wouldn't work for them anyway. The Nissan dealership has been very restive to the Leaf; as I have been asking about it since 2013. WV also charges a $200 fee per year to licence an EV and $100 for a hybrid, our state hates green cars.

I do know of 4 Bolts now in my town, and a 5th on the local Chevy lot even though they don't service them. They are gaining traction and soon this state will be force to acknowledge them even though it doesn't want to.
 

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WV also charges a $200 fee per year to licence an EV and $100 for a hybrid, our state hates green cars.
That's not unique to WV. They are trying to capture the gas tax that you aren't paying. Here in SC, they do something similar. I think it came out to be the same as driving a car that gets 35mpg for 15,000 miles a year.

Now whether or not that is a good policy is a completely different question. :)
 

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WV is not friendly to EV's at all. ... WV also charges a $200 fee per year to licence an EV and $100 for a hybrid, our state hates green cars.
The hybrid portion is for PHEV only. It's crazy. At the time they passed that law there were something like 113 EV's and 300+ PHEVs in the state. They wasted time coming up with a law that generated roughly $40,000 in tax revenue per year. I wonder how much time lawmakers spent on that - and whether WV voters got their moneys worth!

Glad to see a DC Fast Charge of any type in the state. Electrify America's initial plan ignores it completely. If this one is available to the public it makes getting south to I-81 and beyond from Northern WV much easier.
 

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That's not unique to WV. They are trying to capture the gas tax that you aren't paying. Here in SC, they do something similar. I think it came out to be the same as driving a car that gets 35mpg for 15,000 miles a year.

Now whether or not that is a good policy is a completely different question. :)
To be honest I think that this tax may actually be the right thing, but it does not encourage EV ownership. We bought the Bolt to offset as many of our miles as we can, and have been putting about 2k miles a month on it. The Bolt will still save us over $2k a year and we have been kicking around a PHEV for her in a year. All in all this move will allow us to spend $2-3k a year elswhere, the Bolt is really our "gateway drug".
 

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To be honest I think that this tax may actually be the right thing, but it does not encourage EV ownership. We bought the Bolt to offset as many of our miles as we can, and have been putting about 2k miles a month on it. The Bolt will still save us over $2k a year and we have been kicking around a PHEV for her in a year. All in all this move will allow us to spend $2-3k a year elswhere, the Bolt is really our "gateway drug".
Having an offset for the gas tax is not a bad idea. The problem is the implementation. Instead of rewarding efficiency and pollution reduction, the current implementation penalizes it. IMHO it's a political bent based on the though that EV people are a Tesla type crowd, and therefore can afford to pony up. But not paying any type of road use tax isn't sustainable either. I'm in Georgia, which also has the $200 registration fee for EVs.

I propose using the efficiency, mileage, and current gas tax to formulate an equivalent value for the gas tax paid. For baseline numbers consider 25,000 miles of annual usage, the Bolt's 119 MPGe, and I'll use Georgia's current combined 44 cents state/federal gas tax. The equivalent is simple to compute. The equivalent gallons of gas would be 25000/119 = 210 gallons equivalent. The tax on that is $92.40. Note that it's less than half of the current registration fee.

Now the 25,000 miles was an arbitrary number. For drivers who are willing to put in some legwork, the charge can be reduced by producing a certified actual mileage on the car. It seems that a notarized affadavid showing the actual annual mileage should be enough. So if the car were actually driven 12,500 miles then with the affadavid, the fee would be halved to $46.20.

Note that electricity is already charged sales tax. So the actual funds collection over the year would be more. But something like this would be much more fair than the current system and would only require the production of a chart with fixed mileage for those who don't want to take the time to get their mileage certified.

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