Where did you read that? Oddly, the Tesla/RAV4 you mentioned is actually quite sought after. May have more to do with the rarity and efficiency than the Tesla nameplate though.
That's the part that makes me think the rumor is true. GM can not wait 10 years to have an EV pickup. They need one yesterday.
Yes, that's what it looks like sometimes when a company listens and is responsive too criticisms and feedback.
Just so I don't have to keep saying "if it's true", let's assume it is until we hear otherwise as I expect this will be a popular topic.
Not sure about this. On the one hand I kinda like the sense of safety that comes from NOT seeing Bolts conflagrate themselves. And on the other, considering the numbers and profits involved, I think pickups make a great target for electrification. Honestly, considering the number of trades using them it seems odd GM didn't start there. Consider if they only did 100 miles a day, that's ~25k per year (35k if the truck works weekends). At best you'd get 20 MPG, so you'd use 1,250 gallons, which @ $2.40 would total $3,000 per year. And that's best case. Looking at Fuelly data it seems even new F-150's are averaging ~16 MPG - same with the Silverado 1500. And of course that's with folks who care enough to track mileage.
That's an interesting vehicle. But 113 miles of range from a 42 kWh pack. From what appears to be a fairly compact and aerodynamic SUV. Seems you'd want a good 100 kWh pack in something like a Silverado (w/cap?) to survive work days in winter climates?
This would blow most of the diehard TSLA zealots' brains if true. "Our precious Tesla is tainting itself working WITH GM? NOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Just my 2 cents, but it is my guess that GM had a come to jesus moment sometime recently WRT its future and electric vehicles. The cancellation of the Volt, the unveil of the photos of the Caddy EV, and the seeming backpedaling of the "No EV trucks in the next decade" statement. It all points to GM shifting its EV plans into overdrive, as opposed to the slow trickle strategy it's employed thus far. I think an EV deluge is coming from GM, and when the dam breaks, the flood is gonna be biblical.
I am one diehard TSLA zealot who would welcome any business arrangement that made Tesla more profitable and, consequently, more viable as a long-term player. No groan of disbelief here.
Same here. This is just another triumph of EV over ICEV. I've not heard any backlash. It's just his imagination.
It may, but they can get over it. Makes sense that Tesla would partner with either GM or Ford who both KNOW how to make trucks. If there's one thing the domestic makers know, it's trucks. Better to do that then try to reinvent the wheel. Doing that would be an uphill battle for Tesla, one of which I think they would find a very long and hard shell to crack. If GM is now serious about EVs then they would be eager to work with the company with tons of EV experience and success.
Don't worry, they're out there. The same folks that still bring up GM crushing the EV1s every few months. To these diehards, partnering with GM is equivalent to dancing with the devil. Once IEVs posts the article, they will come out of the woodwork.
Oh, I agree. To me, the comment about no EV trucks for a decade had more to do with supply chains. At this point, GM is outsourcing battery and motor manufacturing, so they are operating at the whims of their parts suppliers. LG would have to see a ten-fold increase in battery production to supply GM enough batteries for both GM's trucks and all of LG's other client obligations.
I see this as being a case of: Both could be true. The investment in Rivian is a hedge. If Rivian proves capable and they really are the first to market with an EV pickup, GM wants a piece of that action. However, if Rivian falls flat on their faces (or they severely overestimate the demand for $80,000+ EV pickups), GM would want to pursue a partnership with Tesla in order to have an EV truck ready for market in 24 months (similar to the Tesla partnership that produced the RAV4 EV). Playing both sides is just smart business.
