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That's what I thought when I bought my 2019. Then GM discounted the 2020 at higher discount a couple months afterwards. Hard to time the purchase. :)
The point of waiting is really to see what the upgrade looks like. If it incorporates the features that most would like to see, and maybe then some, then it would be worth waiting for.
 

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Unless I absolutely had to buy a new car now, I would wait for the 2021 model to appear, then either get the upgraded version or get a truly super discount on the remaining 2020 models.
I was in that cycle for computers when I worked at Intel. Found myself always waiting for the ones we had in our lab. And never buying a new one! We had a Prius we really enjoyed, but we got a taste of EV from 2 Nissan Leafs. The Bolt is awesome, great power and distance. With the discount we got, it was even better. I told my wife if something comes along and she has to have it, she can and I will take the Bolt!
 

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Not only with the Bolt, but with other new EVs, it seems like the discounts are generally not as generous in Tucson or Phoenix. I tend to just go straight for asking the out-the-door-price, and I keep in mind this does not include interest on a loan, and then this usually ends the conversation for me. Usually the final numbers are a few thousand more than what I read from other parts of the country on these boards.
 

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You can buy one in California and avoid CA sales tax if you take possession outside of the state. You or the dealer will have to arrange transportation to the state line. I did that in 2005 anyway. I was living in Colorado but all the hybrids at the time were being shipped to CA.

The dealer physically drove the car with dealer plates to the state line (did not trailer it) and I met him at the NV state line casino who also had a notary. (Guess they do that a lot.). I signed the final paperwork and took the keys in front of the notary for like $25 or something. I had to get the dealer back home as part of the deal so my mom who lived close to the dealership drove him back to So.Cal while I headed east with a 5 day transport pass.

That was 2005. Today I'm surprised you can't buy one on Amazon and have it be delivered to your door.
 

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Yes, i stand corrected on the rear speakers. They are in the doors. I took a trip in the back seat and I couldn't hear the sound there....
OK. On the horn, I found the place in the settings where I could turn it off (and I did) but I think it's not fot the key left in the car. it's still doing it. i think it is doing it even for the charge port open, in some situations.

Thank you!
I get random horn beeps as well in my 2017. Sometimes when my wife leave her purse in the car with key fob... sometimes when neither key fob is in the car... and sometimes no beeps when wife's purse IS in the car. Annoying.

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You can buy one in California and avoid CA sales tax if you take possession outside of the state. You or the dealer will have to arrange transportation to the state line. I did that in 2005 anyway. I was living in Colorado but all the hybrids at the time were being shipped to CA.

The dealer physically drove the car with dealer plates to the state line (did not trailer it) and I met him at the NV state line casino who also had a notary. (Guess they do that a lot.). I signed the final paperwork and took the keys in front of the notary for like $25 or something. I had to get the dealer back home as part of the deal so my mom who lived close to the dealership drove him back to So.Cal while I headed east with a 5 day transport pass.

That was 2005. Today I'm surprised you can't buy one on Amazon and have it be delivered to your door.
Thanks for the info, interesting how you did this.

This is a possibility, but I'm not sure I'm quite this adventurous. It seems somewhat more likely that I'll prioritize not having to go through all that. I'm still very unsure. It's a very strange market, because there will be such a significant change in the number of good new models available in a year or two, and then after that, a few years down the road, I'm hoping some of them come down in price enough in the used market so that I can better afford one.
 

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slate grey and it was the LT but it had every options chevy offers for it on it. i still cant figure out why chevy is offering so many deals. I mean they came so far down on the price it was almost a warning sign to not buy it. Like what is wrong with this car that they are trying to move the inventory so quickly. Still a little nervous about that. lol
 

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I think that either battery prices that GM pays have fallen, thus allowing better deals, or soon the upgraded 2021 model will be advertised and the current model won't be very appealing in comparison, so they are trying to clean out the inventory. But, it seems a bit early for the 2nd case, so I'd go with the first: lower GM build costs allows a lower selling price, more inline with the perceived value.
 

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I think that either battery prices that GM pays have fallen, thus allowing better deals, or soon the upgraded 2021 model will be advertised and the current model won't be very appealing in comparison, so they are trying to clean out the inventory. But, it seems a bit early for the 2nd case, so I'd go with the first: lower GM build costs allows a lower selling price, more inline with the perceived value.
If that is the case, then they need to drop the MSRP rather than selling with huge discounts. They can punch other EV manufacturers in the face with a vehicle featuring 259 miles of range and $30,000 MSRP. But a 259 mile range EV starting at $36,000 MSRP selling for $27,000 looks like desperate clearance measure rather than "we are doing great".

If they could get the MSRP on the LT down to $25,000 they wouldn't just punch other EV manufacturers in the face, they would light the EV world on fire... discounting a $36,000 LT down to $25,000 and nobody would notice other than people in the market who are already considering a Bolt.

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Where is the writer getting $26,000 as a price for a 2020???
We just bought a 2020 in Colorado Springs (LT model w/DC charging option) for about 28,250, which included ripoff $699 "dealer handling fee".
That price did NOT include sales tax and Fed and State tax incentives, which are $1,875 and $4,000 respectively. Price would be lower in areas where dealers don't have fees that they will not negotiate.
 

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If that is the case, then they need to drop the MSRP rather than selling with huge discounts. They can punch other EV manufacturers in the face with a vehicle featuring 259 miles of range and $30,000 MSRP. But a 259 mile range EV starting at $36,000 MSRP selling for $27,000 looks like desperate clearance measure rather than "we are doing great".

If they could get the MSRP on the LT down to $25,000 they wouldn't just punch other EV manufacturers in the face, they would light the EV world on fire... discounting a $36,000 LT down to $25,000 and nobody would notice other than people in the market who are already considering a Bolt.

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I'm not sure that things are going great. Sales figures have been generally declining according to GM Authority. Chevrolet Bolt EV Sales Numbers I would be interested in seeing sales numbers for 2020. Maybe the MSRP will change when the 2021 model is introduced. I can't think of any cases where MSRPs were reduced for any car model in the past. Maybe this time will be different?
 

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I'm not sure that things are going great. Sales figures have been generally declining according to GM Authority. Chevrolet Bolt EV Sales Numbers I would be interested in seeing sales numbers for 2020. Maybe the MSRP will change when the 2021 model is introduced. I can't think of any cases where MSRPs were reduced for any car model in the past. Maybe this time will be different?
There were significant MSRP reductions with the Volt throughout it's life span. As battery prices came down, so did the price of the Volt. These are prices and battery capacities for the base model with no options and no compensation for a decade worth of inflation:

2010 $41,000 16.0 kWh (around 9.5 kWh usable)
2011 $41,000 16.0 kWh (around 9.5 kWh usable)
2012 $40,000 16.5 kWh (around 10.0 kWh usable)
2013 $40,000 16.5 kWh (around 10.0 kWh usable)
2014 $35,000 16.5 kWh (around 10.0 kWh usable)...lots of pissed off people who purchased the 2013 for $5,000 more
2015 $35,000 17.1 kWh (around 10.5 kWh usable)

2016 $34,000 18.4 kWh (around 14.0 kWh usable)
2017 $34,000 18.4 kWh (around 14.0 kWh usable)
2018 $34,100 18.4 kWh (around 14.0 kWh usable)
2019 $33,520 18.4 kWh (around 14.0 kWh usable)

As far as Bolt sales go:
2017 25,999
2018 25,247 a drop of almost 750
2019 24,240 a drop of almost 1000

I would attribute the 2019 drop to the loss in production resulting from the UAW strike more than anything else.

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Looks like the first significant price break was at 4 years. So, maybe the 2021 Bolt will see a price drop.

Bolt Sales per GM Authority:

................ US.......................Canada..............S. Korea..................Total
2017...... 23,297.................... 2,122 ................... 570 ................... 25,989
2018...... 18,019.................... 2,628 ................ 4,580 ................... 25,227
2019...... 16,418.................... 3,624 ................ 4,171 ................... 24,213

US sales have seen a continuing, significant decline, though Canada has been increasing.
 

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Looks like the first significant price break was at 4 years. So, maybe the 2021 Bolt will see a price drop.

Bolt Sales per GM Authority:

................ US.......................Canada..............S. Korea..................Total
2017...... 23,297.................... 2,122 ................... 570 ................... 25,989
2018...... 18,019.................... 2,628 ................ 4,580 ................... 25,227
2019...... 16,418.................... 3,624 ................ 4,171 ................... 24,213

US sales have seen a continuing, significant decline, though Canada has been increasing.
You skipped Mexico... that is why our numbers are different :) Also, if you read the thread here from the guys in Hawaii, the UAW strike definitely affected availability in 2019.

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