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I just looked up the HD dealer the next town over.
Seems someone left a message that they were told it is ONLY for Motorcycles and is still not operational
The messaging is inconsistent between HD dealers. Some allow free, some allow paid, some say it is only for HD motorcycles.
 

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The messaging is inconsistent between HD dealers. Some allow free, some allow paid, some say it is only for HD motorcycles.
Yes, I know that, just like all other chargers, some free some pay. I've been using plugshare since 2014.
I was just saying how it was listed at my local HD dealer. Not that I would go there to charge, just seems odd to do that :ROFLMAO:
 

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An argument in favor of "Medium" (Call it 20 - 30 kW) DCFC - much faster than home or away L2 (~3x) but not as potentially hard on the battery as full tilt bogie 35-55 kW.

As to knowing in advance the max rate of a given station, there are really only a half dozen or so total variants: (in my experience, anyway)

1) 20-24 kW - Bosch / Delta (Chevy dealers) or KeyWatt (ChargePoint 100 at Harley and BMW dealers)

2) 33-38 kW - EVGo 100 Amp

3) 40-45 kW - EVGo 125 Amp, ChargePoint 250, Electrify America Metro

4) 50+ kW - Standard Electrify America so-called 150, 320 or 350 kW stations, all of which feature a possible alternate output of 0, zip, nada, bupkis if any one or more of about 100 different failure modes apply - high pollen count, sunspot activity, bright sunlight, 5 digit error codes, etc.
 

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Re: EVgo, for SAE Combo, some of them come from BTC Power and some from ABB.

I believe the EA ones you're talking might be BTC Power (e.g. https://www.plugshare.com/location/193054).

As for #3 ChargePoint 250 being 40 to 45 kW, not always in my experience. There are some at ChargePoint HQ (like unit #41 at https://electricrevs.com/2018/07/17/watch-a-bolt-ev-at-a-chargepoint-express-250-charge-at-up-to-55-kw/) that do hit 55 kW. I've used that exact unit + 2 others nearby when they were set to free.

I have used what appears to be an Express 250 at another location that said on the display it was "50 kW" at max.

There are other units (not that I've physically seen them) deployed around the US like these:
https://electricmobility.efacec.com/ev-quick-charging/ (e.g. at https://www.plugshare.com/location/8428)
https://www.plugshare.com/location/163319 are also BTC Power. Recargo (behind Plugshare) and BTCPower are now owned by innogy.
 

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Many of the CP (chargepoint) boxes had to have the cables recalled. The one that I used before gave me about 38 and after the new install gave me 44 or something like that.
So maybe that is a reason you are not getting as much ?
 

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An argument in favor of "Medium" (Call it 20 - 30 kW) DCFC - much faster than home or away L2 (~3x) but not as potentially hard on the battery as full tilt bogie 35-55 kW.

As to knowing in advance the max rate of a given station, there are really only a half dozen or so total variants: (in my experience, anyway)

1) 20-24 kW - Bosch / Delta (Chevy dealers) or KeyWatt (ChargePoint 100 at Harley and BMW dealers)

2) 33-38 kW - EVGo 100 Amp

3) 40-45 kW - EVGo 125 Amp, ChargePoint 250, Electrify America Metro

4) 50+ kW - Standard Electrify America so-called 150, 320 or 350 kW stations, all of which feature a possible alternate output of 0, zip, nada, bupkis if any one or more of about 100 different failure modes apply - high pollen count, sunspot activity, bright sunlight, 5 digit error codes, etc.
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- ChargePoint 100 units deliver about 20-22 kW (when not broken)

- ChargePoint 200 (Tritium's Veefil) deliver 125A (43-46 kW)

- ChargePoint 250 (?made by CP?) deliver from 45-300+ kW, depending on how they are hooked up. I have seen 125A, 150A, and 300A (125kW, shared by two units) versions of these.
 

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Hey, you're right. The Android app has power level too. I'd still leave that set to zero, as choice of power level is still the least of our worries here in flyover country.
One problem I've noticed is that lots of DCFCs do not have power ratings on PlugShare, so if you filter by e.g. >= 50kW, a lot of stations that should appear don't.

Does anybody know where one can edit the charger power on PlugShare? I tried edit from both the website and the iOS app and I didn't see where this information comes from. Thanks.
 
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