[Gavinmcc]

Who here uses an eco tech and who uses a draw-tite hitch?

I like the 2 inch hitch of the eco.

I like the ease of install of the draw-tite. And the two connection points of the draw- tite is nice, but the eco with three bolts looks firmly attached too and very solid.

I plan to get a Kuat NV bike rack because my bike is heavy at 45+ pounds, but I’ve only seen photos of the Sherpa on a bolt.

The Sherpa looks great on a Bolt. I kinda worry the NV will be too big and wide.

Does anybody use a Kuat NV with their Bolt?

My car should be here in a week or two and I plan for the hitch and bike rack to be basically day one updates...

Thanks
Gavin

My almost car...

My heavy EV bike

 

[Slappy McGee]

I got the draw tite and was just out today with a 1up rack plus additional bike carrier with my MTB and my sons “kids bike” that seems to be made of wrought iron as it’s about 2x heavier than my 15yo chromoly MTB.

The two bikes are fairly solid save for some bounce over speed bumps, etc. with my CF road bike it’s rock solid.

I like the 1up rack since it converts easily between 1” and 2” hitched so works on my car and wife’s.

Draw tite was super easy to install, seems solid, and is daily inconspicuous when not being used.

 

[Gavinmcc]

Never heard of the 1up, but they look solid. One question, seems the part to hold the tire is more for mountain bikes? Not an issue as my bike has wide tires, but my brother's bike has super skinny tires...how is the 1up with super skinny tires?

 

[martinknutson]

Who here uses an eco tech and who uses a draw-tite hitch?

I like the 2 inch hitch of the eco.

I like the ease of install of the draw-tite. And the two connection points of the draw- tite is nice, but the eco with three bolts looks firmly attached too and very solid.

I plan to get a Kuat NV bike rack because my bike is heavy at 45+ pounds, but I’ve only seen photos of the Sherpa on a bolt.

The Sherpa looks great on a Bolt. I kinda worry the NV will be too big and wide.

Does anybody use a Kuat NV with their Bolt?

My car should be here in a week or two and I plan for the hitch and bike rack to be basically day one updates...

Thanks
Gavin

I installed the draw-tite, and I use a Thule T2 Pro, which is massive overkill for my Trek Emonda. It's rated for 2x60lbs. I have put a second bike, an MTB, on it, and neither the rack or the hitch seemed to show any strain.

 

[Gavinmcc]

Thanks All...any photos you want to share

G

 

[Gavinmcc]

I installed the draw-tite, and I use a Thule T2 Pro, which is massive overkill for my Trek Emonda. It's rated for 2x60lbs. I have put a second bike, an MTB, on it, and neither the rack or the hitch seemed to show any strain.

Thanks

 

[Gavinmcc]

I got the draw tite and was just out today with a 1up rack plus additional bike carrier with my MTB and my sons “kids bike” that seems to be made of wrought iron as it’s about 2x heavier than my 15yo chromoly MTB.

The two bikes are fairly solid save for some bounce over speed bumps, etc. with my CF road bike it’s rock solid.

I like the 1up rack since it converts easily between 1” and 2” hitched so works on my car and wife’s.

Draw tite was super easy to install, seems solid, and is daily inconspicuous when not being used.

Thanks

 

[Sean Nelson]

Who here uses an eco tech and who uses a draw-tite hitch?

I use the Torklift eco hitch, and I'm very happy with it and with the one I had installed on my previous car, a Toyota Prius C. I'd never buy a hitch rated for only 100 lbs tongue weight, two bikes and a rack can easily exceed that and even if you're only hauling one bike now who knows what your needs might be next year? And a 2-inch hitch can be used with 1-inch accessories but not the other way around.

 

[32500]

I installed the draw tite 1.25 inch last night. It was extremely easy to install compared to the EcoHitch. Also, the tongue weight and tow capacity are identical, and yet it costs 1/3 the price. Also, I think the design is better since it has rear bars to stabilize the torque on the hitch better. For most uses, such as with rack or cargo accessories, it's really the torque that's the limiting factor.

The issue with the 2" hitch is that the tongue weight is so limited anyway, and reduced from 200 lb to 100 lb with any accessory, that you can't safely use anything that's not Class 1 anyway. Might as well sick with the Draw Tite.

 

[Gavinmcc]

I like the 1up rack since it converts easily between 1” and 2” hitched so works on my car and wife’s.

Hmmm, almost bought the 1up, but not sure how it would work with my rear fender (front is small enough not to worry, but back goes down far).

Will have to email them...

Gavin

 

[32500]

Hmmm, almost bought the 1up, but not sure how it would work with my rear fender (front is small enough not to worry, but back goes down far).

Will have to email them...

Gavin

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They do have complete schematics online, if you click on Fitment. Are you specifically concerned about clearance when folding the rack down? With the Draw Tite, even the three bike carrier should be able to be angled down.

 

[martinknutson]

Hmmm, almost bought the 1up, but not sure how it would work with my rear fender (front is small enough not to worry, but back goes down far).

Will have to email them...

Gavin

View attachment 26972

1up seems to have you covered there:

Fender Cushion

Superior protection for your fender Foam and Velcro® construction cushions fender from spools on rack arm Ship weight: 1 lb

www.1up-usa.com

Here's a thread that discussed how well it works:

possible solution for 1UP rack with fenders

i have a 1up rack and just bought an easy motion street front fender is fine but rear set up is not working well purchased the cushion for fenders from 1Up but still not so great so i ordered the wheel savers to see if i can push it up under the fender where the cushion will hit, think this...

electricbikereview.com

From some of the related threads, the rear rack might be an issue as well. I had been eyeing the 1up for our M235i, as it's lighter, and comes in a 1 bike configuration, but the bike that would go on that car does come with a rack. It's a seatpost mount rack, though, and does offer a lot of clearance.

If you really like the 1up, and their adapters don't do the trick, maybe a shorter fender in back? NM is generally dry, and your set up doesn't look like it's for off-roading.

 

[Gavinmcc]

They do have complete schematics online, if you click on Fitment. Are you specifically concerned about clearance when folding the rack down? With the Draw Tite, even the three bike carrier should be able to be angled down.

I need to be more precise in my language on line...Not worried about the car rear fender/bumper, nor bike with folding rack down, worried about the bike rear fender with the way the 1up holds the bike in place...

 

[Gavinmcc]

1up seems to have you covered there:

Fender Cushion

Superior protection for your fender Foam and Velcro® construction cushions fender from spools on rack arm Ship weight: 1 lb

www.1up-usa.com

Here's a thread that discussed how well it works:

possible solution for 1UP rack with fenders

i have a 1up rack and just bought an easy motion street front fender is fine but rear set up is not working well purchased the cushion for fenders from 1Up but still not so great so i ordered the wheel savers to see if i can push it up under the fender where the cushion will hit, think this...

electricbikereview.com

From some of the related threads, the rear rack might be an issue as well. I had been eyeing the 1up for our M235i, as it's lighter, and comes in a 1 bike configuration, but the bike that would go on that car does come with a rack. It's a seatpost mount rack, though, and does offer a lot of clearance.

If you really like the 1up, and their adapters don't do the trick, maybe a shorter fender in back? NM is generally dry, and your set up doesn't look like it's for off-roading.

Thanks...will look into it. The rear fender has the really nice back light that I would hate to lose. I might go Kuat NV, but sooooooo wide. The 1up isn't was wide and is easy to use for one bike when not traveling with my brother.

I'll email them and see what they recommend for my ride...

Thanks all
G

 

[Tokodave]

Who here uses an eco tech and who uses a draw-tite hitch?

I like the 2 inch hitch of the eco.

I like the ease of install of the draw-tite. And the two connection points of the draw- tite is nice, but the eco with three bolts looks firmly attached too and very solid.

I plan to get a Kuat NV bike rack because my bike is heavy at 45+ pounds, but I’ve only seen photos of the Sherpa on a bolt.

The Sherpa looks great on a Bolt. I kinda worry the NV will be too big and wide.

Does anybody use a Kuat NV with their Bolt?

My car should be here in a week or two and I plan for the hitch and bike rack to be basically day one updates...

Thanks
Gavin

My almost car... View attachment 26961

My heavy EV bike

View attachment 26962

I got the Saris (1.25), which was the lightest 2 bike rack I could find that didn't rely on frame contact. I like the rack but the way the hitch is mounted on my Bolt allows the rack to torque the hitch mount...disconcerting bouncing going over some bumps...

 

[Gavinmcc]

If you really like the 1up, and their adapters don't do the trick, maybe a shorter fender in back? NM is generally dry, and your set up doesn't look like it's for off-roading.

She (yes my bike is a she) goes off road

but yes, she is mostly a city commuter by nature...

Gavin

 

[martinknutson]

She (yes my bike is a she) goes off road


View attachment 26977

but yes, she is mostly a city commuter by nature...

Gavin

Nice. Where I live, there is a lot of clay in the soil, and in wet weather you'd want a little more bite than the Horizon's give you. Maybe you have something knobbier you put on when it gets muddy.

 

[Gavinmcc]

Nice. Where I live, there is a lot of clay in the soil, and in wet weather you'd want a little more bite than the Horizon's give you. Maybe you have something knobbier you put on when it gets muddy.

Oh, when I lived back East I had knobby as heck tires...and if I was really mountain tearing it up (at 57 I don't play like that anymore), I would not take "Blanca"....but as you said, most days here are dry, and the dirt dries in minutes vs days back East. On road she excels, dirt is ok, gravel is pushing it...rock jumping makes her sad...

I don't anthropomorphize all my vehicles....ok, yes I do.

Gavin

 

[Sibilance]

Regarding this: https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/

Now, I don't consider myself a cheap man, but isn't that fender cushion basically a piece of thick high temperature pipe wrap with a nylon koozie around it?

 

[martinknutson]

Regarding this: https://www.1up-usa.com/product/fender-cushion/

Now, I don't consider myself a cheap man, but isn't that fender cushion basically a piece of thick high temperature pipe wrap with a nylon koozie around it?

It's a fair question, and I'm not in a position to defend the 1up pricing on this. There is about $0.15 of materials cost in there, assuming you can find something with the right density and interior/exterior dimensions. If it was me, I'd bodge something together out of stuff in my shop, but not everyone has a garage full of junk from previous projects that can be repurposed. I do like the light weight of the 1up, and the fact that you can get a 1 bike version, but for securing the bike, I prefer the combination of a ratchet strap and adjustable J hook you find on the Kuat or Thule.

The other thing I'd want to look into, because bike theft is a big problem where I live and ride is the methods available to secure the rack to the hitch and the bike to the rack (or hitch). The 1up has that fun Erector Set look, but I wonder of a small socket set could make quick work of it. I secure my bike to the hitch (not the rack) using a Kryptonite New York noose. I'm sure it can be compromised, but it's probably easier to steal the bike a few spots down.