[zepplin732]

Hey all,

I just got my 2018 Bolt Premier about a week ago and after a family party and lots of discussion about the car I got to thinking about actual operating costs for the car, namely the charging price per kWh. I’m with National Grid currently and when you factor in all delivery charges and fees my rate ends up around $0.23 per kWh. Anyone else in MA seeing the same rates or so I need to shop around? Thanks for any input.

 

[NY-Rob]

Wow, that's as bad as PSEG Long Island... 23 cents/kWh after all fees/surcharges, etc..

That's what drove me to solar. 7 yr payback and the rest is all gravy

 

[zepplin732]

Yeah kind of a bummer but it’s still cheaper than gas. Looks like my cost of ownership (financing, insurance and actual charging costs) will be about the same as my 2013 Elantra. But at least I’m investing that money into the car and not the fuel for said car.

How did you find the solar process to be? Right solar after incentives is around $16k, do you actually save enough or sell back to the grid to offset the price of the panels?

 

[mnbolter]

Wow, special EV charging rates in Minneapolis are $.045 per kWh

 

[Colt Hero]

Yikes! And I might be moving back to MA! Maybe I should get a brain scan first to see if I'm going crazy.

Bigger question though: isn't this where it's ultimately headed ... higher and higher kWh rates? It's kind of like with the cable companies - you "cut the cord" and buy a streaming package ... but then they still got you because they control the broadband access!

So you "cut the hose" with the gasoline, and then you're at the mercy of your monopolistic electric utility.

But at least solar gives you some hope there. There's no hope with the cable companies. We'll all be paying $200/month just for Internet access before long...

 

[Lin19687]

I have Eversource and it is about $0.21 with all fees and junk.
There really isn't anyone else to move to.
Unitel is even HIGHER ! Hope you don't live out by Fitchburg !

FYI, there is a Rate/time plan but after a simple math comparison you end up paying Tons more.

 

[Colt Hero]

I have Eversource and it is about $0.21 with all fees and junk.
There really isn't anyone else to move to.
Unitel is even HIGHER ! Hope you don't live out by Fitchburg !

FYI, there is a Rate/time plan but after a simple math comparison you end up paying Tons more.

I'd be on the south side of Boston, which I believe is also Eversource (and Columbia gas?).

I just happened to be paying my electric bill online here this weekend (Carolinas) and noticed the bill does not show the kWh rate. It just shows "A1" in the rate box ... and it wasn't explained on the back of the bill, either.

But I did the quick math and it came out to 14.5 cents (not including a "Security Light" fee they tack on). I remember when I first moved down here (1995), the first rate I remember was like 9.5 cents, but now I'm thinking it was less ... maybe 7 cents? Might look through my old records to confirm that.

Definitely less expensive to live down here in the South. AND - there's more sun. You'd think you'd see solar panels all over down here, but no - it's only getting started now (in the last couple years or so).. I think the Utilities down here were able to block it the last decade or so ... when it started to take off up in MA. Now in MA, it appears that solar has come to a screeching halt (?) ... maybe due to lack of Energy Credits (or just saturation)?

 

[Lin19687]

I'd be on the south side of Boston, which I believe is also Eversource (and Columbia gas?).

I just happened to be paying my electric bill online here this weekend (Carolinas) and noticed the bill does not show the kWh rate. It just shows "A1" in the rate box ... and it wasn't explained on the back of the bill, either.

But I did the quick math and it came out to 14.5 cents (not including a "Security Light" fee they tack on). I remember when I first moved down here (1995), the first rate I remember was like 9.5 cents, but now I'm thinking it was less ... maybe 7 cents? Might look through my old records to confirm that.

Definitely less expensive to live down here in the South. AND - there's more sun. You'd think you'd see solar panels all over down here, but no - it's only getting started now (in the last couple years or so).. I think the Utilities down here were able to block it the last decade or so ... when it started to take off up in MA. Now in MA, it appears that solar has come to a screeching halt (?) ... maybe due to lack of Energy Credits (or just saturation)?

I just recycled my bill paper but it should say how much you are paying per 'Fee' which ever fee it is, like $0.0023 or something silly like that. It is National Grid and Columbia Gas just got bought by someone, I think Nat Grid.
Solar is still good here.
Down south doesn't want any change, ever, you can get solar just not hook it to the grid down there I think. Not much rebates either so they can stop many people. It is cheaper down there but then again a lot poorer too. many can't afford to even think about solar.
Only reason I don't have solar is because I rent right now (hopefully not for much longer).