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I'm a new Bolt owner and have found a rather strange situation: One can shift from D to L, but to shift from L to D one must first shift into Neutral. Is there a way to shift directly from L to D without first going to N?
 

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I'm a new Bolt owner and have found a rather strange situation: One can shift from D to L, but to shift from L to D one must first shift into Neutral. Is there a way to shift directly from L to D without first going to N?
Just pull the shift lever down again. Pull down once for L. Pull down again for D.

Also, to shift to neutral, just hold the shift lever up in the "Neutral" position for about 3 seconds. When you are in Neutral, you will get no electric motor input at all. The brake pedal will ONLY use the actual disk brakes.
 

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Just pull the shift lever down again. Pull down once for L. Pull down again for D.

Also, to shift to neutral, just hold the shift lever up in the "Neutral" position for about 3 seconds. When you are in Neutral, you will get no electric motor input at all. The brake pedal will ONLY use the actual disk brakes.
Thanks JustLovett0. That worked. You know more than my salesman or his manager did. They're the ones that told me I had to shift to Neutral first. :rolleyes:
 

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Thanks JustLovett0. That worked. You know more than my salesman or his manager did. They're the ones that told me I had to shift to Neutral first. :rolleyes:
And there you have it, salesmen know next to nothing about EVs. Spend a day in the car, or two on this forum and you will know 10X what they know about the car!

Welcome to the forum!
 

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Yes. I can see you are correct. It's not just GM. When I bought my 2019 Leaf I encountered the same thing. Their "Leaf Expert" gave me a bunch of misinformation that I was eventually able to figure out on my own by using web resources.
 

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FWIW, a friend of my wife's had owned her Bolt for two years and never knew there was an L and that it enabled one-pedal operation. When my wife saw she wasn't using it and explained it to her, it was a revelation. She said, "It was an OK car before, but in L it's wonderful."

Sometimes, it's the salesperson not knowing. Sometimes, it's the buyer just being so excited/overwhelmed/not listening to all the details.

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FWIW, a friend of my wife's had owned her Bolt for two years and never knew there was an L and that it enabled one-pedal operation. When my wife saw she wasn't using it and explained it to her, it was a revelation. She said, "It was an OK car before, but in L it's wonderful."

Sometimes, it's the salesperson not knowing. Sometimes, it's the buyer just being so excited/overwhelmed/not listening to all the details.

jack vines
Nice! Yeah, I even made the salesguy go check with his manager that you had to shift N first. I knew that couldn't be right.
 

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Now, this is a salesman that goes deep into Bolts... he has several videos related to Bolt features and situations
FWIW, a friend of my wife's had owned her Bolt for two years and never knew there was an L and that it enabled one-pedal operation. When my wife saw she wasn't using it and explained it to her, it was a revelation. She said, "It was an OK car before, but in L it's wonderful."

Sometimes, it's the salesperson not knowing. Sometimes, it's the buyer just being so excited/overwhelmed/not listening to all the details.

jack vines
 

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FWIW, a friend of my wife's had owned her Bolt for two years and never knew there was an L and that it enabled one-pedal operation. When my wife saw she wasn't using it and explained it to her, it was a revelation. She said, "It was an OK car before, but in L it's wonderful."

Sometimes, it's the salesperson not knowing. Sometimes, it's the buyer just being so excited/overwhelmed/not listening to all the details.

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All solved by RTFM.
 

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This got me too. It gets pretty much everyone. That's an indication that it's designed wrong. One shouldn't have to RTFM.
 

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GM's stance on Bolt's L mode is strangely contradictory.

The engineers have devoted a lot of time to perfect the one-pedal driving mode enabled by the L and it really shows. Heck, it's even sometimes advertised as one of the key advantages of the vehicle. It can be used in almost all driving situations, once you get the hang of it.

Yet, the shifter literally hides the L mode when it's not in use. If you don't read the manual or do a "double shift down", intentionally or not, you'll never know that it's there. Even in the manual, it's worded in a way that could be interpreted as the L mode only being usable in the city or downhill.
 

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(for those that don't know, RTFM: Read The "Fine" Manual).
When I first came across the term "RTFM" many years ago, it was described as "Read the Manual". It's always fun to watch people's faces as first they realize you left out a letter and then suddenly clue in to what it means.
 

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(for those that don't know, RTFM: Read The "Fine" Manual).
Actually that is incorrect. This saying started off as a vulgar saying in the beginning as “read the f***ing manual!!!” A less version is “read the freaking manual!!!”

There is no “fine” manual saying. Please that just sounds dumb. LOL
 
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Actually that is incorrect. This saying started off as a vulgar saying in the beginning as “read the f***ing manual!!!” A less version is “read the freaking manual!!!”

There is no “fine” manual saying. Please that just sounds dumb. LOL
I'm fairly sure that's why Fine was in quotes. But yeah, it does sound suboptimal. Frustrating, maybe?
 
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