Oh and once I do start charging I got 70 miles to go so it's going to take me a good 45 minutes maybe an hour to get enough range to make it home joy joy joy

 

I think I need something like a Kia plug-in hybrid the Sportage

I don't want to discourage any of you new people to Evie's I run Uber and Lyft and for what I do where I need a few hundred miles every day at least there's just isn't working it's getting old in the winter time... Summer is okay.

All you're doing is commuting and you're just fine

 

PHEV is a great option in your use case since you may get to use the battery capacity once or twice a day. I almost got the Kia Niro PHEV in 2019. But you might be better off with 2 Bolts. Use 1 in the morning, swap out after lunch for the afternoon shift. Fuel cost savings with home charging probably pays for the 2nd Bolt and then some.

 

Yeah, I feel ya. Northern NJ with frequent trips to North Central PA, Electrify America has me thinking ICE for the next one. As it is we'll be using my 3/4 ton truck for the next few trips. Lots of time the Bloomsburg Sheetz EA has only 2 chargers up, a normally slow station that is starting to experience lines because of the chargers being down. Same relative situation in all of NE Pennsylvania.
Seems adoption curve is moving ahead of the infrastructure curve. Do you have an ICE option now so you don't have to get rid of your EV?

 

Yeah I actually purchased a 2008 Ford escape hybrid 30 miles a gallon to use for Amazon and UPS deliveries so generally what I do since we sold our house this summer and moved into a luxury quote apartment until interest rates come down we buy again anyway where we're at now all I have access to 110 volts.

So what I do is one day drive the Bolt doing Uber lift the next day I have been using the escape for deliveries.

I don't know I'm I don't know if even 300 miles is going to be enough like the Blazer and equinox will have especially if there are no chargers near me faster than 50 kilowatt.

I may need to get something like the Sportage for a couple of years and wait for the EV network to get built out better and look for something with 350 mile range

 

Infrastructure may be lagging and be the biggest factor in your challenges. How are local plans for charging infrastructure proceeding with NEVI funding?

 

Like horse doo doo...
Actually supposed to be getting eight new chargers nearby but they're all going to be 50 kilowatt I see gilliland Chevrolet is supposed to be getting a level 3 on but that doesn't help me I'm in Minneapolis.. it's just running on electrical fumes and arriving at a station and it's not working.. that's the biggest issue right now.

So many chargers out of service

 

There are certain cars and networks that were planned for the last 12 years...specifically for the open road and superhighways.
Having owned 2 different Bolts, I and others know that the Bolt was not planned for extended superhighway use. It can be done
with a turn of the last century buggy type struggle to get from point A to point B. But, it can be done, like with the story that you
describe..

At at certain point, according to the owner's needs, it becomes a saving/efficient account to actually buy a car that costs 15 to 20K more.
That is, that particular type of car can immediately be put on long haul road, have over 300 miles of actual range, charge at over 210KW,
and MOVE on down the road.

It is a matter of investment and priorities. I have a Miev that is perfect for a 60 mile loop of shopping/recycling/dog park, etc. Perhaps, for
most USA citizens, that would be a perfect village car. But, I even downshift further, and use a little village type EV...more than I would ever
use a Bolt/Miev/Tesla = because the little minimum one does the job and is fun to drive locally.

None of the above combos should ever be considered by a serious on the road salesperson or admin of many various locations. My son
is a gun-for-hire Pharmacist, who must run all over NC. He is trying to make a Bolt work for that...with great effort, empty tanks and slow
charging. He knows that he cannot do that in the future, with the next EV purchase. Uh, and no, none of this extended family is EVER
going back to ICE.

 

Well the thing that gets me is for a vehicle that in the summer I can get 250 mi that now I'm getting 130 MI in winter I can't even go on a 65 mi trip and be a assured I can make it back that's pretty pathetic

 

Not all locations are suited for EV for every driver. For instance in Winter when you are getting only 130 miles of range, how much of that decrease is due to heating? For instance if you brought an battery powered cordless heating blanket and just relied on seat heat, how much range would you get? I live in Sunny California so my range never goes down below 200. I always charge at home, or if I am at a trip I would use a Level 3. It is a waste of time to charge at a commercial Level 2 station. Best of luck to you to find a solution!

 

I was watching bujorn reviewing the Nissan Aria the other day guess what it has an actual battery preheater who would have thunk....

Nissan is actually letting you just turn the battery heater on whenever the **** you want it what the **** is wrong with GM

 

I seen musk was showing off the 500 mi range semi impressive in perfect conditions bring that semi to Minnesota and let's see what it does

 

At this point, if you believe anything Musk says, then you're bound to be disappointed...

 

Okay I just started charging the other person left so I've been charging about 5 minutes I've got 15 miles of range I need to make it I don't know about 70 miles so I sit here and twiddle my thumbs and vent on you guys

 

An hour and a half ago I sitting in downtown Minneapolis it was a grocery chain down there that's got a slow charger so I sat there for almost an hour I added like 15 miles or some crap enough to make it over here oh and also got to spend $16 on a couple pieces of chicken and mashed potato while I waited

 

Oh we're flying now 26 kW

 

Okay the dealership is closed it's Sunday I got to piss everyone want to vote empty out mycoffee and pee in that or plenty of tires around here

 

Don't bother with ,the popcorn I'm just about done ranting e

 

Did you look them up on plug share, and somewhat as important, report them on plug share?

 

It's just constant with chargers down at least here in Minnesota

 

And with people not posting that they have the charger tied up . And here in Minnesota 95% of the chargers are just one charger so if someone's at it and doesn't report it you don't know until you get there and they might need to be there 2 hours like that rivian

 

 

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Did it max out at 39kW because of the cold, or because that's how much this particular DCFC can push?

Maybe you find my experience interesting to look into.

Early in May 2021 Colonial pipeline got hacked, and for a whole week the situation with the fuel supply in our area was a little uncertain. This was the last reason for deciding in favor of getting a Gen 4 Sienna, which has a very long range. And I introduced the rule "Half tank? Fill up". This means that head to gas station as soon as the DTE drops to 300 miles.

I am applying the same rule to the newly acquired EUV, but I don't yet know what range to expect. Whatever it turns out to be, I'll not plan any trips that are longer than 1/2 of the expected range (I am guessing 80-100 mi in the winter and 120-150 mi in the summer). I consider using DCFC's only in emergency situations.

 

About an hour and half a tank..

 

its a very good commuter car if You live close to work or if Your work has chargers. The road trips are not great. It might be acceptable for retirees that have plenty of spare time or college kids who could spend time studying while waiting to charge. I am still hoping to complete my trade repurchase and then get into a newer BEV in a few years from now. Wow noticing almost 150K miles on Your ODO- OneEV You sure got your use out of the Bolt.

 

Yup, same thing up here in Ontario.
PHEV for me all the way....it's a BEV for around town use and back and forth to work then when you have a big trip in the middle of a snow squall you just drop some gasoline in it and forget about it.
It is truly the best of both worlds and you end up with a lot more vehicle for the money.
I've had a hybrid, two plug in hybrids and a BEV.

 

Interested in the new Prius or Prius prime? Maybe the Vinfast VF6, which I saw at the LA auto show also? I've had my Bolt since January 2017 and while I love it, it seems Chevy has no plans for anything of similar size replacing it for awhile and the Equinox and Blazer are too big for me. I'm even thinking of buying a Mazda 3 for a few years and then reentering the EV market in when the options become more to my liking. Right now, car makers seem to be concentrating on the high profit SUV and truck segments first, which makes economic sense.

 

Riveting.

In CA you should get more than 200 miles on a full battery even using heat. I can do better than 200 on the freeway for a whole tank right now and until spring. The most I have ever seen be designated as lost to climate is 20 miles TBH.

I know. I am not trying to rub it in that you have chosen to live in a 4-5 month deep freezer. So it goes with the territory and the lack of level 2 at home isn’t exactly helpful for your situation. You are probably going to be better served with gasoline involved unless you can get a level 2 to start with a full tank every morning. Sorry for your pain, I know how it is to be exasperated by totally screwed-up current affairs.

 

Riveting.

In CA you should get more than 200 miles on a full battery even using heat. I can do better than 200 on the freeway for a whole tank right now and until spring. The most I have ever seen be designated as lost to climate is 20 miles TBH.

I know. I am not trying to rub it in that you have chosen to live in a 4-5 month deep freezer. So it goes with the territory and the lack of level 2 at home isn’t exactly helpful for your situation. You are probably going to be better served with gasoline involved unless you can get a level 2 to start with a full tank every morning. Sorry for your pain, I know how it is to be exasperated by totally screwed-up current affairs.

I just had to marry a woman that lives in the deep freezer so yeah there's no moving
By the way I had a Lincoln MKZ 40 miles to the gallon on it so hybrid before I got the bolt

 

This sounds like another reason to support plug-in hybrids. I thought they would just be a preference for those with range anxiety, but for those with limited charging infrastructure they would make a great option. When the Volt first came out, I thought it might be just the first of a series of plug-in hybrids, with each generation offering longer and longer battery only range until the gas portion became redundant and they became pure BEVs. With proper infrastructure those intermediate steps are unnecessary, but without it, widespread adoption of BEVs may be a challenge. In very rural areas, especially where it gets really cold, plug-in hybrids maybe the only alternative to pure ICEs for the near future.

 

It's definitely about the charging infrastructure. Here in coastal California things are not too bad, but I recognize that much of our nation is currently an EV desert. If we need to drive out of coastal California for some reason I would not even consider taking our Bolt because of this -- as much as I love driving our EUV. President Biden is attempting to relieve EV charging bottlenecks by adding fast chargers along the interstate highways where the jurisdiction of the federal government is unquestioned, but this will be a bandaid at best. Once EV adoption reaches a tipping point the private sector will jump in with both feet because they can make guaranteed profits, of course, but his could take a while at the rate that things are going ...

 

150k, other than the battery issue, how’s it been?

 

Almost perfect ... still no Brakes, they look great.
Suspension feels roughly the same, no annoying squeeks or rattles. thousands of passengers and seats still look almost new.

I did replace the Info screen, left quarter touch stopped wotrking..$100
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The Only issues for me is:

Slow Charging
Low Winter Range

After relaxing a it , I think I'll just stop doing long trips (65 miles +..rollseyessad) until March/April

I only owe a couple grand on it..pay that off few months . drive it at least through summer 2023... make a decision in Fall... See how much official range the Blazer/Equinox are suppose to get, see if they are in fact adding the heat pumps and battery heater AND if we get at least 2 150kW chargers between St Cloud and Minneapolis.

Otherwise..it's back to Hybrid

 

Down the street from where I work there's a "rideshare vehicle provider". They lease vehicles for rideshare use. Or rather... they lease Prii for rideshare use. For a quarter mile they have Prii lined up on both sides of the street. You're probably better off with a Prius.

 

H No anything but a Prius...lol

 

Maybe ICE where there's ice?