The IRS started accepting 2017 tax returns today but they have not yet released an updated 8936, “Plug-in Electric Vehicle Credit”, for tax year 2017. There is a preliminary instruction doc on their site but no updated form. Also, the site I use for returns, TaxAct, won’t let me enter info to get my credit because the IRS has not updated the form. What gives? As far as I know, nothing in the forms should have changed from 2016 to 2017.
IRS form 8936 for 2017 not available
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It is still in draft form. I would expect it to be out in mid February.
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f8936--dft.pdf
https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-dft/f8936--dft.pdf
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https://www.irs.gov/e-file-providers/list-of-available-free-file-fillable-forms
The date on the IRS site says 2/8/2018.
The date on the IRS site says 2/8/2018.
The IRS was probably not making any effort to update that form, because there was a very good chance (up until the last week of negotiations) that the credit was going bye-bye. It's why we took delivery of our Premier on Dec. 29th last year. Ends up that it was unnecessary to hurry, but at least we can take the credit earlier.
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It is available in Turbotax as of a couple of weeks ago.
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My 2017 TurboTax has the form. I went through the worksheet last night. I could send you a blank, but it has "Preliminary" all over it.
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Also, IRS is massively understaffed and using archaic tech.
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Ironic, since they collect the lion's share of the money that funds all the other departments...
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Nonsense, this is a driving forum and we Canadians are the backseat drivers for our American friends!
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^ Um, trust me guys... we know how F***ed the IRS is :crying:
When I got my first vehicle (2012 Plug-In-Prius) that was eligible for an ($2,500) IRS Tax credit, I double checked the forms, dotted the i's, crossed the t's, etc... my return was perfect!
Lo and behold, three weeks later my refund came back less the $2,500 credit. I was furious, I phoned the IRS... they kept handing it off to another department, "call back in a week...." they all saw no reason why the $2,500 credit was disallowed. After four or five calls, they finally connected me with one of their tax attorneys... he was also clueless as to why it was disallowed! Everyone said it should go through, there's nothing wrong with your return... but they couldn't find anyone to actually push it through.
Finally almost three months later, I got a check in the mail, with no explanation for $2,500 from the IRS.
The IRS has been messed up for years!
When I got my first vehicle (2012 Plug-In-Prius) that was eligible for an ($2,500) IRS Tax credit, I double checked the forms, dotted the i's, crossed the t's, etc... my return was perfect!
Lo and behold, three weeks later my refund came back less the $2,500 credit. I was furious, I phoned the IRS... they kept handing it off to another department, "call back in a week...." they all saw no reason why the $2,500 credit was disallowed. After four or five calls, they finally connected me with one of their tax attorneys... he was also clueless as to why it was disallowed! Everyone said it should go through, there's nothing wrong with your return... but they couldn't find anyone to actually push it through.
Finally almost three months later, I got a check in the mail, with no explanation for $2,500 from the IRS.
The IRS has been messed up for years!
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Honestly, I think the well-off congress want to cripple the IRS so they can't audit congress' ill-begotten spoils... </tinfoil hat>
I welcome criticism from our CAN kin, unlike our Cheeto-In-Chief.
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Sorry. I tried to show a full image picture in post #13 above by embedding IMG+url in the Message-reply area. As a fallback I also threw the same image into the post as an attached file which gets displayed as a thumbnail.
Whether the full image gets displayed, seems to depend on operating system and browser being used. For example I think Google Chrome handles it and displays full image. But Internet Explorer doesn't. IOS devices (Apple) (at least the not-new ones I've got) don't show full image, just the thumbnail.
I could also be the problem in the method I'm using to post picture. Right now with Windows Google Chrome I can select 'Insert Image' from the icons above the Message-reply box (second row of icons, sixth one from the right). Then if I enter the URL of the image (jpg,pgn,etc) as a character string inserted into the message where I want it located, it results in the full image being displayed at viewer end. Provided viewer is using Google Chrome: Doesn't seem to work with Internet Explorer. I don't know about Firefox or Microsoft Edge, etc.
It would be great if the admins could put together a table showing exhaustively: which operating systems+browsers recognize full images and not just thumbnails. I realize this is not an easy task.
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The 30% Federal Tax Credit expired Dec 31, 2016.Has the EVSE deduction gone bye bye for 2017? I don't see it in Turbo Tax as of the latest update.
It was Form 8911 (not 8936 like the EV Credit).
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Well that's a bummer. I was hoping to take advantage of that for the cost of installing my juicebox. Oh well.
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I've dabbled with web server admin (not by choice) for encapsulating/integrating various existing company web apps and the frameworks they use, and I can tell you it's utter chaos the compatibility with different web browsers. Just reading about different levels of WebSocket support, CSS rendering issues, and unique quirks between browsers is enough to drive anyone insane. I really feel for web admins and developers.
Me too. When I got the gateway drug (Chevy Volt), I was trying desperately to get quotes from electricians + EVSE costs such that I could take advantage of the EVSE rebate. It was still too expensive. In hind sight, I should've just took the hit and install one before the expiration. A 40A EVSE would've been nice with the Bolt I have now.
IRS Form availability update: As of this am (2/8/18), the 2017 version of IRS Form 8936 [Qualified Plug-In Electric Drive Motor Vehicle Credit] remains unavailable online. The old (2016) form lists $2500 as the maximum credit per vehicle and should NOT be used! If anyone else HAS found the 2017 Form, please respond with the link. Let's keep this thread active until April 15!
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