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Agreed. I manually chose my stations as well. For long trips I create a spreadsheet with likely stations and the energy in kWh and % needed to get to the next station with a 20% margin. It sometimes goes out the window if we're both feeling like we need a stop sooner. . .

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Agreed. I manually chose my stations as well. For long trips I create a spreadsheet with likely stations and the energy in kWh and % needed to get to the next station with a 20% margin. It sometimes goes out the window if we're both feeling like we need a stop sooner. . .

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I manually choose my charging station(s) as well, forcing ABRP to use the routes I want to take vs. the suggested ones. I also have a spreadsheet with all the DCFC along the way giving me a plan B. I can use Plugshare to find backup chargers on my phone but a printed spreadsheet has the advantage of never losing connection to a satellite.
 

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A Better Routeplanner Interview





Flamboyant Dutch personality Vincent Everts interviews Jason Rapp at the Fully Charged Event in Austin, Texas., Jason is the American side of the duo that developed A Better Routeplanner (ABRP). Everts explores why Jason and his partner Bo developed the route planner and what makes them different from all the others. See Why Abetterrouterplanner is much better. How did Jason make it, future plans, business model & more.





Jason is an avionics specialist with mission control on the International Space Station. He's clearly no slouch. ABRP is his side gig. Jason drives a Bolt, but the planner was originally developed for Tesla users in Sweden by Bo. Unlike some other planners, ABRP has data for Chevy's Bolt as well as other non-Tesla vehicles.


See also Is "A Better Routeplanner" Better? A Review for the Bolt.

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The guys at ABRP are doing a good job, thanks for the link. I don't understand how they are getting live data from the users. Can someone explain?
 

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While I don't trust automated systems to make charging decisions for me (yet) without some checking, what these guys have done is pretty amazing. I hope they keep up the great work and manage to make some money off ABRP. I hope one or more BEV manufacturer will get on board with some funding support to make ABRP a one-stop-shop.

Of course, if we had more, and more reliable charging stations, the absolute accuracy of the output wouldn't be quite so critical.
 

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The guys at ABRP are doing a good job, thanks for the link. I don't understand how they are getting live data from the users. Can someone explain?
Tom,

You log on with your cell phone and activate a special link on their web site. I think that's done through Torque Pro. Then the data is read from the OBD thingy via Torque Pro. I am bit fuzzy on that now. I did it once or twice and had issues. Jason was very helpful, actually walked me through it. I did get it to work and he's told me that they should have some improvements soon to make it less nerdy.

As others have noted. I use the planning features, but created my own charging spreadsheet. The network here in central California is just not reliable or extensive enough to rely on their choice of stations.

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ABRP is not very impressive IMHO. I would rather use a much better GPS program like Waze.
 

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Tom,

You log on with your cell phone and activate a special link on their web site. I think that's done through Torque Pro. Then the data is read from the OBD thingy via Torque Pro. I am bit fuzzy on that now. I did it once or twice and had issues. Jason was very helpful, actually walked me through it. I did get it to work and he's told me that they should have some improvements soon to make it less nerdy.

As others have noted. I use the planning features, but created my own charging spreadsheet. The network here in central California is just not reliable or extensive enough to rely on their choice of stations.

Paul
Thanks, Paul. I didn't know you could do that.
 

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OK. I have played with ABRP on my computer for weeks, and it is really neat. So this evening I downloaded it onto my phone from the Google Play Store because I really want to try it hooked to my OBD II. Took a minute to load, and it comes up looking about like on the computer. When I tap on the my location box, and the keyboard pops up, I get about three digits of our address typed in before it says it stopped working. I have tried uninstalling, and reinstalling the app to no avail. I can see the map with our house on it, I can set up our car in settings. But as soon as I attempt to enter a location, it crashes. I sent an problem email from the app to the developer. Hopefully he will have some advice. I can't wait until computers are aware, so I can just scream at it, and threaten it with a hammer to do what I want. :)
 

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OK. I have played with ABRP on my computer for weeks, and it is really neat. So this evening I downloaded it onto my phone from the Google Play Store because I really want to try it hooked to my OBD II. Took a minute to load, and it comes up looking about like on the computer. When I tap on the my location box, and the keyboard pops up, I get about three digits of our address typed in before it says it stopped working. I have tried uninstalling, and reinstalling the app to no avail. I can see the map with our house on it, I can set up our car in settings. But as soon as I attempt to enter a location, it crashes. I sent an problem email from the app to the developer. Hopefully he will have some advice. I can't wait until computers are aware, so I can just scream at it, and threaten it with a hammer to do what I want. :)
Yeah, I use the web site to do route planning, and then instead of using the phone app I take a picture of the plan on my computer with my phone... that is the extent of the usefulness of a phone in relation to ABRP :)

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