[MichBolt]

"20% of Shoppers Consider an EV or a Hybrid, Report Finds"

Includes EVs (~8%) and hybrids×(~15%). Tesla M3 is top EV, Toyota RAV4 Hybrid is top hybrid, Chevy Bolt is 10th on combined list.

https://www.kbb.com/car-news/20-of-shoppers-consider-an-ev-or-a-hybrid/

 

[redpoint5]

... so only 10% of those settle on an EV.

Kinda sad considering that even includes hybrids. At this point everything should at least be a hybrid.

 

[cwerdna]

I used to be super active on Priuschat.

I'm fairly sure before there were any mass-market BEVs (before Model S), I'd seen all sorts of these "consider" surveys for non-plugin hybrids (there were no PHEVs yet). It was always some pretty high %, but IIRC, non-plugin hybrid marketshare in the US never got beyond 10% despite the vehicle requiring no habit change nor any new infrastructure. Will try to find these when I get a chance.

Was amusing and annoying...

I've said it before (and thus agree w/redpoint5), IMHO, every ICEV (that isn't a BEV) should at least be some sort of hybrid, maybe even a mild or micro-hybrid.

 

[redpoint5]

I've said it before (and thus agree w/redpoint5), IMHO, every ICEV (that isn't a BEV) should at least be some sort of hybrid, maybe even a mild or micro-hybrid.

People really hate CVTs, and by extension, eCVTs. They don't like the "rubberbanding" and revving of the engine when they are calling for more power. eCVT really is a superior transmission though...

Perhaps if the initial acceleration was by electric motor only, it would condition people to like instant throttle response and silent starts and prime them to love EVs. Even the plug-in Prius was a delight from a dead stop due to instant throttle response and smooth, quiet operation.

... I'm on Priuschat too, but haven't been for a while as new interesting topics dried up.

 

[Packard V8]

People really hate CVTs, and by extension, eCVTs. They don't like the "rubberbanding" and revving of the engine when they are calling for more power. eCVT really is a superior transmission though...

Perhaps if the initial acceleration was by electric motor only, it would condition people to like instant throttle response and silent starts and prime them to love EVs. Even the plug-in Prius was a delight from a dead stop due to instant throttle response and smooth, quiet operation.

For true, it's a continual frustration to transmission/product design engineers that US car buyers are so numbnuts dumb they require a CVT transmission to be programmed to "shift" and thus be less efficient and less economical than if it were allowed to be pure CVT.

Raymond Loewy, the father of modern industrial design understood when he said, "Most Advanced, Yet Acceptable - the adult public's taste is not necessarily ready to accept the logical solutions to their requirements if the solution implies too vast a departure from what they have been conditioned into accepting… "

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