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Trip to las vegas and back from the Temecula area … I’ll keep this short and dwon to the point, so others can extract data quickly and easy.
Weather was ideal both directions 75-85 degrees, low winds or some tail wind, climate controls set to 69/70 degrees, roads were wide open and travel speed very consistent 5-6 mph over the posted limit. Essentially no slow downs on the way.
Surprisingly ? the energy used was identical at 75kw per direction
Charging stations used:
EVgo Victorvalley: 1 DCfast, worked as expected, got raped as expected too. shuts off after 30 mins. 2 charging sessions were needed to get from 59% to 81% (1st 30 mins 42kw tapered to 24kw), from 81% to 94% (2nd 30 mins). Needed that tho to make sure I don’t get stranded.
1st session added 13.2kw, 2nd session added 7.8kw … 21kw for $22 … thanks EVgo
On the way back one 24min session to get from 14% to 40% = 15.6kw for $10
The station is in a good spot, there’s food across the street and other facilities to wait while you charge, sucks to have to go back after 30 mins to re start the charge, but my wife and I were prepared for this, so no big deal.
Once the BAKER station is build a lot of people will be able to skip Victorville and dash straight to baker for a 30 min charge which could be enough to make it to las vegas from there. See data points below – I used 48kw to make it to baker from my home
Chargepoint prim/stateline: 2 stations, both in working order and charges at 6.6kw. free. Used it only on the way back for a little safety cushion while having breakfast at the casino. Added about 3kw in just a little over ½ hr.
Chargepoint aria hotel las vegas: 4 spots with 2 SHARED chargers. Free but parking is $10/night. Charging can be as slow as 3kw but since we stayed 2 nights I wasn’t worried, didn’t get a full charge the first night but was enough to get into the red rocks and valley of fire. Full charge the 2nd night as it was charging at 6kw.
2 a-holes were parked there the entire time, hogging space even after fully charged (a bmw 7 series and a tesla). On spot was used by what I think is an employee with a leaf, that car was moved after it was charged both days. So 2 a-holes a good dude and I … felt lucky I got a spot both nights and get charged …

Data points useful for others to make this trip. Again, ideal conditions, full speed travel the entire time and climate set at 69 deg.
Energy used:
Temecula to Victorville 25kw
Victorville to baker 23kw
Baker to prim 16kw
Prim to las vegas 11kw

Las vegas to prim 11kw
Prim to baker 13kw
Baker to Victorville 32kw
Victorville to Temecula 18kw

Hope this helps future travelers …

 

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Thanks and congrats on a successful journey! This is really helpful. I'm also surprised it was both 75 kW both ways. Just curious, were you cruise control in L or D most of the drive?
 

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Grats on making the journey without any hiccups, aside from the charging point hogs. How many miles did you travel one way to Las Vegas?
 

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Thanks and congrats on a successful journey! This is really helpful. I'm also surprised it was both 75 kW both ways. Just curious, were you cruise control in L or D most of the drive?

I don't use L while doing open freeway driving. I use only L when traffic is bad or in the city.


even in D the cruse control will control your downhill speed to keep it at the set level. L at full freeway speed seems to be a bit of a "waste" when you have to tap on the break for a minor slow down. so being in D and conservative - looking ahead driving it would seem to be more efficient ... just my opinion
 

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sorry I tried to edit original post and it won't let me ...


275 miles Temecula to las vegas - surprising to me 3.6 miles/kw and full highway speeds and hills


Temecula to Victorville 25kw - 87 miles
Victorville to baker 23kw - 98 miles
Baker to prim 16kw - 50 miles
Prim to las vegas 11kw - 40 miles



travel in las vegas - red rock - valley of fire 158 miles

Las vegas to prim 11kw - 40 miles
Prim to baker 13kw - 50 miles
Baker to Victorville 32kw - 98 miles
Victorville to Temecula 18kw - 87 miles



708 miles total for the trip, 192 kw total used
 

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o_O That's an interesting license for a BMW i8, the car is nice but not so much the drivers from what I've seen so far. Did you use EVgo most of the trip?
 

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Very possible that the owner of the i8 is actually a doctor who does botox ;p

But that's a pretty cool lineup there. That first picture does look really nice with that background scenery though. Have any more scenic photos??
 

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Allright, I successfully made the trip from LA to Vegas in my Bolt. My experience was very similar to flmgrip's.

Overview

I left from the west side of Los Angeles, stopped in Victorville to charge at the EVgo DC charger, and made it from Victorville all the way to the Las Vegas strip (188 miles). Drove with climate control set to 72 degrees, and its in the high nineties outside in the desert. Stayed pretty close to the speed limit the whole time (65-72 mph). The Venetian was a great place to charge once in Vegas -- free self parking garage with a bunch (6?) of free ChargePoint chargers on the 6th floor that always had open spots when I was there.

Details

LA to Victorville - 100 miles, 3.8 m/kWh. Got to Victorville with 57% battery. First 30 minute period got me to 80%. Second period got me to 92%. I thought that was borderline so I did a 3rd session and got to 100%. The time went pretty quickly, there's plenty to occupy yourself with at the mall there, a food court, etc. Just annoying to have to restart every 30 minutes.

Victorville to Baker - 98 miles, 4.0 m/kWh. This leg was pretty straightforward.

Baker to Vegas - 90 miles, 3.5 m/kWh. This part has a lot of long slow uphill grades that are a bit nervewracking as you can literally watch the battery drain, the range estimate plummet, but what goes up must come down and you regain a lot on the way back down.

Arrived in Vegas with about 30 miles estimated remaining.

Return Trip - didn't keep stats as well on the way back, sorry:

Las Vegas to Primm, 40 miles: Decided to stop in Primm for the way back. Left Vegas at 94% and arrived in Primm with 75%. Free level-2 charger by Whiskey Pete's, walked around in the Outlets and ate lunch, gained 10 kWh in about 100 minutes. Left Primm showing 88%.

Primm to Victorville: 150 miles. Arrived in Victorville with 20% remaining. A single 30 minute charge got me up to 55%. Did about 10 minutes more to get up to 65% and then drove back to LA from there.

This trip is totally doable, but does require some planning and care. Will definitely be much easier once the EVgo station in Baker is open.
 

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And much, MUCH easier once the ChargePoint DCFCs open in Barstow, Yermo, Baker, and Nipton later this year (many more choices/open plugs, AND no more getting raped with 'connection' or 'subscription' fees).
 

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I contacted EVgo to ask about the status of the Baker station, because press reports had said it would be open by June of this year and there's no sign of it. Someone recently went looking around Baker and couldn't find any evidence of it:



EVgo responded in detail, explaining that there were some delays in the process since it was turning out to be more expensive than initially planned for. But now they have completed design and engineering, have the permits, and expect to begin construction later this year.

Good news, as it seemed like maybe they had given up on this project. The Baker station will really help with the LA->Vegas journey.
 

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Nice data to see/know. I am still a novice and learning when to trust my range numbers. Last weekend I drove a 200 mile trip leg with a 253 mile starting "expected range". It was nearly all Interstate with a posted 70 mph speed limit. I drove at 60 mph and finished the 200 miles with 83 miles range showing (range gain of 30 miles). Yes, I did have to charge a shorter time to be able to complete the next 160 mile leg, but I am pretty sure I could have driven the first leg @ 70 mph and been OK. Data like you provide let me learn without having every trip of mine "be an experiment". Thanks! My confidence grows with the number of miles traveled and the number of trips >200 miles (now up to 6).

PS. I am too old to drive in >85 degree weather without any A/C but usually set it to 72-74 degrees (never to 69-70).
 

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Planned DC chargers in Nipton? Surprised the Legion would allow that. Oh well, guess you don't have to worry about Powder Gangers anymore at least.

On a more serious note, are they really planning DC chargers in Nipton? Isn't that a ghost town that was recently bought out as a publicity stunt for a cannabis company? Why would you put a DC there?
 

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On a more serious note, are they really planning DC chargers in Nipton? Isn't that a ghost town that was recently bought out as a publicity stunt for a cannabis company? Why would you put a DC there?
The *address* is in Nipton; the location is right off of I-15 (Cima Rd exit). The reason: convenience (and probably super cheap land).
 

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From_official_CEC_list said:
Here are specific DCFC stations slated to be built on I-5N from LA to San Francisco:

Castaic
31785 The Old Road Castaic, California 91384
Lebec
9000 Countryside Court Lebec, California 93243
Buttonwillow
20662 Tracy Avenue Buttonwillow, California 93206
Harris Ranch
24505 West Dorris Avenue Coalinga, California 93210
Gustine
12754 California 33 Gustine, California 95322

and from I-15N from LA to Las Vegas:
Barstow Station
1611 E Main St. Barstow, CA 92311
Yermo Express Gas
40873 Sunrise Canyon Rd. Yermo, CA 92398
Grewal Travel Center
72363 Baker Boulevard, Baker, CA 92309
Nipton Shell/Cima Mining Company
65845 Cima Road, Nipton, CA 92364
Question for those from the area (or those travelling through there) :

So, out of curiosity, have any of the above DCFCs gone operational yet? Has ground even broken for any of them yet?
 

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Question for those from the area (or those travelling through there) :

So, out of curiosity, have any of the above DCFCs gone operational yet? Has ground even broken for any of them yet?
None of the ones from L.A. to Vegas have opened, the one in Baker has been under construction for more than a year but seemingly is actually going to open "soon" which I took to be in the next month or two.
 

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You wrote, "... 2 A-Holes and a good dude"...

Anyone notice the license plate on the BMW was 'DRBOTOX'. I don't think anyone would be surprised to find that someone who both drives an I8 and had that license plate would end up being one of the two.

Actually I live in Vegas and recognize seeing that car and plate quite often in my daily rounds. So on top of the above note, he is also a local and likely does not need to be charging nearly to the degree that out of state visitors would be.
 
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