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Hi, I am a new bolt owner. I bought my 2021 on March 17. I really love driving it, to the point where my Miata looks sadly at me every time I leave the house. (The Miata has 290,000 miles on it and I plan to put some money into getting it fixed up, to be my "convertible weather" car).

I'm a very nerdy, geeky kind of guy. I have a blog about different geeky things I work and play with, mostly computers, but also houses (I have been building mine for 20 years now) and a little bit of cars.

I have wanted an electric car for a long time, mostly for the economics of it. I have always enjoyed driving and I live in the country and work 50 miles away in Austin, so I drive 100 miles a day round trip. Now, my Miata was good on gas (about 29 MPG) but, still that's a lot of miles and a lot of gas (I had to stop for a fill-up every other day). The last year has been a sort of reprieve, I can do my job from home most of the time so I have probably averaged one day a month in the office for the last year.

When I drove everyday, I always thought "boy an electric car would be nice, just charge it at home, drive it all day and plug it in when you get home and save, save, save". But I needed at least 150 miles of range to make that work, and I needed to be able to pay for the car.

My attitude about cars is a little different than most people's. My dad told me: "The only way to get your money's worth out of a car is to buy it new, take good care if it and drive it until the wheels fall off, then pick them up and put them back on and drive it some more." I have kept my "daily driver" cars for 8 to 14 years and they were all pretty much worthless when I was done with them. I plan to own the Bolt for 10 years and I hope to trade it in for (or just replace it with) a much longer range electric car.

The reason it was time for a new car is my wife has been accepted at medical school. (I am very proud of her.) Unfortunately, she well be about 250 miles away in Galveston for school and I plan to make the trip often. Currently we own three cars: the Miata, her 2006 Scion TC and my 1986 F-250. All are surprisingly reliable for their age, but a 500 mile round trip every other week in any of them seemed unwise.

So with Bolts being discounted pretty deeply due to the 2022 updates, it was my choice for my first electric vehicle. It could be better, longer range, faster DCFC but it's a very nice compromise between features and cost. (For more musing on choices see here.)

I have had a lot of fun with the Bolt in the last three weeks. I have my level 2 charger going and local driving is a breeze, every bit as nice and I thought it would be. And I love it when I don't have to worry about range and can just drive like I want. I live on a cul-de-sac that opens on a road with a 65 MPH speed limit (and, it's Texas so everyone is doing 75, well except for that guy everyone is passing in the no passing zone). When I jump out there I want to jump (I made the Bolt say 160 kWh on the power gauge the other day).

I am studying on how to make long trips in the Bolt and will write more about that as I learn.

So, that's me. Hi everybody. Happy Driving.

Gene
 

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Welcome here. You'll get lots of good, informative info. One thing I've always heard and have confirmed is that any sustained speed over about 62 - 65 will kill your range. Oh, and cold weather is another range killer.
 

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Welcome here. You'll get lots of good, informative info. One thing I've always heard and have confirmed is that any sustained speed over about 62 - 65 will kill your range. Oh, and cold weather is another range killer.
I have done test runs at different speeds, your analysis appears correct about speed. As for temperature, well, it's central Texas. This year for our one week of winter, we just stayed home.
 

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Only reason i went EV was that i was only driving 50 miles a week in heavy traffic with speeds 45mph and under and our Vette club stopped the cruises thanks to CV19. Like a fool i sold my 2013 C6 for a new 2019 C7 that i had to lemon law then got a 2021 Camaro. I was just not using the car like i should have and then when gas went back up this year i just had enough. If i knew gas would go way back down and stay down i would get a used C8 in about 4 years.
 

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Only reason i went EV was that i was only driving 50 miles a week in heavy traffic with speeds 45mph and under and our Vette club stopped the cruises thanks to CV19. Like a fool i sold my 2013 C6 for a new 2019 C7 that i had to lemon law then got a 2021 Camaro. I was just not using the car like i should have and then when gas went back up this year i just had enough. If i knew gas would go way back down and stay down i would get a used C8 in about 4 years.
Why not a Tesla, wouldn’t that have been more satisfying speed and acceleration wise?

You could add some fake engine sound! 😊
 

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Hi, I am a new bolt owner. I bought my 2021 on March 17. I really love driving it, to the point where my Miata looks sadly at me every time I leave the house. (The Miata has 290,000 miles on it and I plan to put some money into getting it fixed up, to be my "convertible weather" car).

I'm a very nerdy, geeky kind of guy. I have a blog about different geeky things I work and play with, mostly computers, but also houses (I have been building mine for 20 years now) and a little bit of cars.

I have wanted an electric car for a long time, mostly for the economics of it. I have always enjoyed driving and I live in the country and work 50 miles away in Austin, so I drive 100 miles a day round trip. Now, my Miata was good on gas (about 29 MPG) but, still that's a lot of miles and a lot of gas (I had to stop for a fill-up every other day). The last year has been a sort of reprieve, I can do my job from home most of the time so I have probably averaged one day a month in the office for the last year.

When I drove everyday, I always thought "boy an electric car would be nice, just charge it at home, drive it all day and plug it in when you get home and save, save, save". But I needed at least 150 miles of range to make that work, and I needed to be able to pay for the car.

My attitude about cars is a little different than most people's. My dad told me: "The only way to get your money's worth out of a car is to buy it new, take good care if it and drive it until the wheels fall off, then pick them up and put them back on and drive it some more." I have kept my "daily driver" cars for 8 to 14 years and they were all pretty much worthless when I was done with them. I plan to own the Bolt for 10 years and I hope to trade it in for (or just replace it with) a much longer range electric car.

The reason it was time for a new car is my wife has been accepted at medical school. (I am very proud of her.) Unfortunately, she well be about 250 miles away in Galveston for school and I plan to make the trip often. Currently we own three cars: the Miata, her 2006 Scion TC and my 1986 F-250. All are surprisingly reliable for their age, but a 500 mile round trip every other week in any of them seemed unwise.

So with Bolts being discounted pretty deeply due to the 2022 updates, it was my choice for my first electric vehicle. It could be better, longer range, faster DCFC but it's a very nice compromise between features and cost. (For more musing on choices see here.)

I have had a lot of fun with the Bolt in the last three weeks. I have my level 2 charger going and local driving is a breeze, every bit as nice and I thought it would be. And I love it when I don't have to worry about range and can just drive like I want. I live on a cul-de-sac that opens on a road with a 65 MPH speed limit (and, it's Texas so everyone is doing 75, well except for that guy everyone is passing in the no passing zone). When I jump out there I want to jump (I made the Bolt say 160 kWh on the power gauge the other day).

I am studying on how to make long trips in the Bolt and will write more about that as I learn.

So, that's me. Hi everybody. Happy Driving.

Gene
Welcome Newb!! Going electric has made so much sense to me.... Now I just need to get a good solar charging system for it... not easy to find at the moment... but that is my next goal!!
 

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Mark my words folks.... Gas prices are never going to go way low again. The World is changing and watch how Electric cars are going to get really really awesome... maybe even make some Muscle car sounds when you punch it... LOL
 

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I have been reading up on "Sport" mode and I am going to give it a try to see what it is about and if it can be fun(er)...
 

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Mark my words folks.... Gas prices are never going to go way low again. The World is changing and watch how Electric cars are going to get really really awesome... maybe even make some Muscle car sounds when you punch it... LOL
I am less certain about gas prices. The price of oil is quite artificial. If all suppliers pumped what they wanted to, gas would be $1.00 a gallon. (This is just opinion, I don't have proof and don't have time to do the research to back it up.) From the time when Texas producers had their "allowable" limits until OPEC set limits on member states production, there has been a monopolistic control of the oil supply, by different organizations. (Boy that sounds like a conspiracy theory, something I am very against.)

I used to hear that as soon as gas was $3.00 a gallon, thus-and-so technology would be viable. Here is Texas regular gas got to $3.00 a gallon until electric cars started showing up. Now it goes up and down, but stays less the $2.50 a gallon.

I think as the OPEC suppliers feel more and more threatened by the lessening number of ICE cars and the pressure to decrease carbon emission, you can expect gas prices to come down or stabilize at about $2.00 a gallon. (Don't pay any attention to me if you disagree, this is not my area of expertise.)

But even at $2.00 a gallon electric cars win on dollars per mile. My Miata (which I love and which is a very efficient car for a sports car) used about 3 gallons of gas to for my trip to and from work (100 miles), at $2.00 a gallon that is $6.00. Yesterday I drove to and from work and to two different doctors appointments, I used 31.94 kWh (according to the charger) at my current electric rates that is about $2.75. So, my fuel cost is less than half. When you drive 100 miles a day, oil changes become a big expense, for the Miata it came to an oil change every two months about $17 a month. For the Bolt? Well, zero. I have become a real fan of one pedal driving, I touch the break pedal maybe twice a day. Break jobs are expensive but I can't really determine what they cost a month, but my money is on the bolt being much cheaper than the Miata. So, the expense of running an electric car is about 1/3 of running a gas car. (If my numbers don't match yours, feel free to say so). The Bolt cost me about the same as the Miata did 12 years ago. It's all win, win, win for me.

Plus, I really do care about the environment, I have kids, grand-kids and one great-grand-child. They will pay the cost of the mess the last four generation have made of the environment. Most of my electricity comes from hydro and wind. And I feel like I am doing something great for the environmental cause to pick an electric car. That seems at odds with the purely economic analysis above. But it's an easy choice when the two halves of your brain agree on a course of action. And we are up to win, win, win, win.

The one real advantage that ICE cars have is speed of refueling. And I will bare this burden in my intended use of the Bolt to drive back and forth to Galveston. It looks like I will be forced to spend 1/2 hour to an hour at a Cracker Barrel restaurant on each trip. Oh the burden of it! But, really, it's an issue and I think the EV manufactures should pay attention to the issue. If I could recharge in 15-20 minutes, I would never look at an ICE again.

I tend to get wordy at times, but these are my thoughts on having an electric car and the effect of electric cars on the price of gas. (BTW: I am keeping the Miata.)
 

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Boy that sounds like a conspiracy theory
That's not a conspiracy theory. That's Cartel practice. Luckily, Cartels aren't sustainable in the long term because they breed competition. I do think the base price of gas will settle to a low level, but governments will feel obligated to keep the prices high through regulation and taxation.
 

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Ok, my bad. I though you had already been buying new Vettes and that you just wanted to switch to electric.
Just saying if i was gonna spend 70K or more for a car i would get a C8 vette and force myself to drive it in places i could go fast. But if gas prices stay high then i am more than happy with the bolt and the price i paid for it.
 
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