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Hello All,
I ran across this forum while searching for news on the Bolt. I have a 2013 fiat 500e lease which is coming due in August and am looking at the Bolt as my next electric car. I already have a Siemens VersiCharge charger so am ready! After having an electric car for three years I cannot go back to an ICE vehicle. Love the Electric! The extra range that the Bolt has will be nice.
 

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Welcome to the forum!
How's the Siemens VersiCharge charger? Heard it was reliable and easy to install and I'm still researching chargers.
 

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Welcome to the forum!
How's the Siemens VersiCharge charger? Heard it was reliable and easy to install and I'm still researching chargers.
FYI, the "charger" is on board the car for AC (L1 & L2) charging. The units you are researching are EVSE's (Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment). In reality just a very fancy smart extension cord with redundant safety features. The charger (like the "brick" of a laptop) is part of the car and converts the AC to DC to charge the batteries.
When quick charging (CCS, CHAdeMO, Supercharger) the external equipment is indeed acting as the charger and supplying the DC current to the batteries.

It's fighting a losing battle because most people refer to EVSE's as chargers, but technically they are not. They could have designed EV's to plug in to a 240v outlet with an extension cord just like boats and RV's have done for decades.
 

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So if someone come out with an outlet adapter for this charger, we can just skip the EVSE and plug it into the wall socket?
 

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So if someone come out with an outlet adapter for this charger, we can just skip the EVSE and plug it into the wall socket?
Nope,
The vehicles is looking for information from the EVSE before (and during) charging.
From Wikipedia:

J1772 signaling circuit
• supply equipment signals presence of AC input power
• vehicle detects plug via proximity circuit (thus the vehicle can prevent driving away while connected)
• control pilot functions begin
• supply equipment detects plug-in electric vehicle
• supply equipment indicates to plug-in electric vehicle (PEV) readiness to supply energy
• PEV ventilation requirements are determined
• supply equipment current capacity provided to PEV
• PEV commands energy flow
• PEV and supply equipment continuously monitor continuity of safety ground
• charge continues as determined by PEV
• charge may be interrupted by disconnecting the plug from the vehicle

You can view more on the spec here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAE_J1772

Note: This is the SAE standard, a slightly different connector and protocol is used in the European version.
 

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No problems with my Siemen's EVSE. I control the charging times with my fiat and charge between 12:00pm and 6:00am since the cost for electric is cheaper during those times. Otherwise unit works great.
 

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Some people might even find it lucrative to have some power bank that can keep power they get from those cheaper times and even power they generate from solar panels. Just looking at the long term savings and at what point it will start paying off should make a good business case.
 
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