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This looks like it might not have a paywall, at least for now:


There's an interesting tech tidbit,

The robot deftly picked up the truck’s eighteen-hundred-pound Korean-made lithium-ion battery, which looked like a rooftop cargo-carrying case. The reinforced high-strength plastic shell contained hundreds of AA-battery-size cells filled with chemicals. The Fanuc [robot] placed the battery on the truck’s chassis, and the skillet floated farther down the line.

But the main reason I'm posting this is that the author's first EV driving experience will be perfect to offer to all the people who ask me what it is like to own and use an EV. He covers good and bad road trip experiences, even in a Ford marketing-loaner Mach-E. A few fair-use excerpts on their trip from NYC to Vermont:

Having driven the route hundreds of times, I knew the filling stations and fast-food places by heart. Along I-95, I was used to seeing the Tesla Superchargers at the back of the service areas I frequent, but, owing to the terms of Tesla’s onerous patent, its charging stations aren’t compatible with Ford E.V.s and other electric vehicles. The Ford-friendly chargers have no Ford signage, and are discoverable only with the car’s navigation system or the FordPass app; many aren’t near the highway.
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The Mach-E’s G.P.S. led us to the chargers—four plugs in green-glowing, gas-pump-like stations next to a Home Depot. Could this be right? No one else was using them.
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But as we drove north the temperature quickly fell into the forties, and, as it did, our projected range kept diminishing. The navigation system apparently hadn’t figured this change in weather in its original calculation, which, at least to me, seemed neither seamless nor delightful. It began to rain. We were both showing signs of range anxiety by the time we arrived, at 11:30 p.m., nearing empty. We plugged into a regular outlet in the barn, in the dark.The Mustang didn’t charge much overnight on my 120-volt outlet.
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The car’s navigation system—or the spotty rural cell coverage—failed to route me to the closest Electrify America chargers, across the state border in New Hampshire, and, for safety reasons, I couldn’t use the FordPass app on my phone to navigate while the car was moving.
 

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While the planning necessary for an EV trip is different, and at the moment more tedious, that will change as more EVs hit the road.
In the early years of ICE machines roads were largely unpaved outside of cities and gasoline was purchased at drug stores or commercial kerosene dealers in sketchy industrial areas known in the day as "the wrong side of the tracks".

We are in the early days yet but like the ICE age we will move quickly into the EV age.
 

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The author didn't sound prepared really. Even with a gas car you should do some planning.
You are perfectly right. But because the author's experiences mirrored my own (NJ to Maine), I would point out that the "correct route" isn't just to your destination via one charging location. The availability of one or two back-up charging locations can be crucial. We had to detour 25 miles from the broken Capital Welcome Center on the NYS Thruway to get charged. And we chose to sleep at a B&B with an EVSE. Naturally, there was a Tesla on that charger when we arrived. (He did notify me when he was done.)

It's pointless to pretend that precise connectivity will only send you to working chargers.
 

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Really great article.

The problem with the Lightning no one is talking about is that Ford insisted there'd be a $40,000 truck and really there's a $70,000 truck because they've purposefully built it so 90+% of the people can't take the $40k truck as spec'd and will have to jump to the next level... which is $70k.

There's literally no argument against the above when they hide the extended battery on the Pro trim behind their commercial sales. They're not even hiding it.

I'm sick of people taking my money, asking me to plan my car buying around them and then pulling the rug out from me.

"We'll give the reasonable option range, but only to these people, not you, you can go f your self rest of America" - what happened.
 

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Really great article.
It was a really terrible article. The article had so many inaccuracies I don't know where to start. The author lost me at the first sentence, talking about AA size batteries. Really??!? Ford Lightning uses pouch cells.
Tesla does not have onerous patents. They have offered to let others use their patents, for free.
The car's nav system isn't the only way to find chargers...I guess the author never heard of Plugshare.
 

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Are you one of those folks anxiously awaiting the new Chevy $30K, 300 mile range SUV? ;)
Nope. Done. Settling in with a new Bolt with a swap and giving up entirely on trying to get something else. It's been experience after experience like this, absolute non stop stress because of the frequency. Just too many in things in my life that are me getting f'd for no reason that I can't spend the time or emotional energy on it anymore.

I'm not the sucker who says, "Sure, take $10,000 more than we agreed upon" or willing to deal with any mal actor in a deal so I'm just not going to play. I'll be back in the market in about 2 years. Maybe, if it's still anything remotely like this I'll just buy the darn Kona at the end of the lease and continue to live a life with minor inconveniences.

It was a really terrible article. The article had so many inaccuracies I don't know where to start. The author lost me at the first sentence, talking about AA size batteries. Really??!? Ford Lightning uses pouch cells.
Tesla does not have onerous patents. They have offered to let others use their patents, for free.
The car's nav system isn't the only way to find chargers...I guess the author never heard of Plugshare.
It was inaccurate in the ways I'd expect an author from the New Yorker who lives in Brooklyn, owns a truck and has a farm in Vermont, for sure, but this stuff only matters to us and it's no less offensive than any of the major media outlets errors reporting on EVs. In fact I find this less offensive then when say WaPo says my batteries explode. They don't, at least not in the way you're using the word to bait click and not properly clarify afterwards... argh.

It wasn't a good article for us, it was a good article because it accurately portrays the what it's like to need/want/own a truck and what it means for the F150 to be a BEV. The New Yorker reader doesn't care about actually owning an electric F150, they care about the bigger story, is this the entry-way for SUVs and trucks to go full BEV? I think it does a good job covering that angle.

I don't know, what do you do? Just be negative about literally all the coverage? I've given up on hoping Alex on Autos becomes WaPo's EV correspondent ;)
 

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Tesla does not have onerous patents. They have offered to let others use their patents, for free.
Well, sort of. Here is a good article breaking down what Tesla's offer of patent sharing really means.
 

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Well, sort of. Here is a good article breaking down what Tesla's offer of patent sharing really means.
I wouldn't call it open source. I'd call it open-sores though.
 
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