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I love my Bolt which I have driven 700 miles so far. But I can see it will not be great for long distance driving. Almost all my driving is within 100 miles of my home but I do go on long trips occasionally. Ontario is about 600 miles and takes 10 hours in my Prius. When I mapped out the route for the Bolt it would take 23 hours!. Not happening. So my next car will be the absolutely beautiful 2023 Prius Prime. I know some people will go on long trips with the Bolt but I do not think it worth the hassle. Great car for daily driving. So you need 2 cars. Most people have that.
It is true that road trips take some additional time. Having made the San Francisco Bay Area-to-Las Vegas trip several times in my Bolt, a trip of 530-580 miles (depending on whether I start in SF, where I used to live, or SJ, where I now live), charging adds about 2 hours to the trip.

But I am still getting rid of my Bolt. Not because I don't like it, but because I bought me a Mach-E for my birthday.
 

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The next car after our 2023 EUV may not even be in the planning stage yet.
 

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I drove from Northwest Ohio to Virginia with a distance of 600 miles in 12 hours. This included 5 charging stops of 40 minutes each starting with 100% SOC from home. It would have taken 10 hours by any ICE vehicle. Those charging stops made the trip very relaxing and I was well rested after I got to the hotel. I was able to go sight seeing and enjoy the rest of the day.

I guess I'm getting older but arriving a bit later at a destination and feeling refreshed beats a forced march and passing out at the hotel once you get there.
 

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I really wanted a Cadillac XT5, but no more ICE vehicles for me. Hopefully Cadillac will make an XT5 EV one day. Hey, I'm turning 60 this year. I'll be eligible for a Buick!馃檪 I wonder what that division is planning.
Of course I haven't got my Bolt yet. Maybe it will be all I ever need.
 

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I really wanted a Cadillac XT5, but no more ICE vehicles for me. Hopefully Cadillac will make an XT5 EV one day. Hey, I'm turning 60 this year. I'll be eligible for a Buick!馃檪 I wonder what that division is planning.
Of course I haven't got my Bolt yet. Maybe it will be all I ever need.
I've got a pre-order in for a 2024 Lyriq and hope to get a Bolt in about two weeks. The Lyriq should be ready around the end of 2023, I'm guessing.
 

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I really wanted a Cadillac XT5, but no more ICE vehicles for me. Hopefully Cadillac will make an XT5 EV one day. Hey, I'm turning 60 this year. I'll be eligible for a Buick!馃檪 I wonder what that division is planning.
Of course I haven't got my Bolt yet. Maybe it will be all I ever need.
I bought a new Buick Century in 1999 before I turned 30 years old. It was such a comfortable car. I drove it for 100k miles and only paid $900 in total maintenance cost. (including a set of new tires)
 

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My wife wants a Toyota Rav4 Prime for our next car. She would really like it in yellow. Why are all cars gray now?
They are all gray to make it easier for your wife to find her yellow car in the parking lot.
 
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If my driving area and the annual mileage remain the same, I will need to start looking for a new car in about 2 years. According to some estimates in 2025 there will be dozens of EV's to choose from, from all manufacturers, in all sizes and form factors, and the prices should go down. At the same time, looking at the latest trends, I can see Teslas still being the first choice and the Bolt the second - just like they were 5 years ago. As they say, the more things change ....
 

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My wife wants a Toyota Rav4 Prime for our next car. She would really like it in yellow. Why are all cars gray now? Then we will have a short distance car and a long haul car.
As Henry Ford once remarked: you can have any color you want as long as it's black. It's probably the same for grey now.
 

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My wife wants a Toyota Rav4 Prime for our next car. She would really like it in yellow. Why are all cars gray now? Then we will have a short distance car and a long haul car.
Good luck finding a RAV4 Prime at any price, but certainly not at MSRP. Is your wife any sort of car person and has she driven her dream? JMHO, but the RAV4 Hybrid and the Prime are the most disappointing cars I've driven recently. After reading the specs, we thought a Prime would be perfect for our needs. Turns out, the anticipated excitement just wasn't there; after driving a Prime, they're the tofu of the Hybrid SUV world, it will keep one alive and healthy, but not enjoying it very much. YMMV.

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Good luck finding a RAV4 Prime at any price, but certainly not at MSRP. Is your wife any sort of car person and has she driven her dream? JMHO, but the RAV4 Hybrid and the Prime are the most disappointing cars I've driven recently. After reading the specs, we thought a Prime would be perfect for our needs. Turns out, the anticipated excitement just wasn't there; after driving a Prime, they're the tofu of the Hybrid SUV world, it will keep one alive and healthy, but not enjoying it very much. YMMV.

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The RAV4 Prime isn't available in any state, but they are available. I just looked up Jim Coleman in MD (where I had taken a RAV4 Prime for a test drive back in 2021) and they have about half a dozen Primes, both new and second-hand, with the prices between $48K and $55K.

I don't really care what a MSRP figure is, because it doesn't really mean anything. It's not a contractual obligation, or even a good faith estimate. It's only a vague indicator of what the actual sale price might end up being, depending on the supply and demand equation at a given point in time and space.

We didn't get the Prime in 2021 because there was a moderate wait involved, and while the dealership demanded a non-returnable deposit, they wouldn't tell me how much I could trade the CRV for. Plus it wasn't clear if our local dealership could 100% work on the Prime.
 

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Interesting question, next car after the Bolt...
My wife and I have been talking about this a bit. Not that there is any near term desire. We're both pretty happy with the Bolt.
And my wife likes her Jeep Renegade, but wants to go electric... The issue there is, she hasn't seen an EV she likes yet.
I did show her a pic of the Jeep Avenger (not out yet, and apparently not coming to the US)... (It's a bit too SUV looking for her, but not terrible...)
But, what we are also looking at is my retirement. (She is retired) When I retire in 2-3 years (if plans go well), then will we need two cars?
We like the idea of no payment in retirement, but have talked about possibly trading in both cars to get one new EV...
That said, if we were looking at doing that today....
We wouldn't...
We just aren't seeing an EV that is small like the Bolt (and Renegade), that is affordable with faster charging that doesn't break the bank... As long as it has faster charging, I wouldn't think we'd need more range.
We already visit family down south (300 miles each way) in the Bolt. One stop on the way and then destination charging while there. So the Bolt works fine for that trip...
That said, we are thinking that timing wise, there will be multiple options in 2-3 years.. ;-) So we'll see...
 

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That said, we are thinking that timing wise, there will be multiple options in 2-3 years.. ;-) So we'll see...
Go back six years here and read the exact same logic for waiting. "There will be better, faster charging, lower cost, higher tech options coming soon."

We were told, "You're stupid to buy your Bolt. Just lease it because it will be obsolete in three years."

Your car, your money, your decisions; but instead of listening to the pie-EV-in-the-sky, we've enjoyed our Bolt for almost six years now.

And since the title of this thread is "Next car after Bolt?", the answer is "Too far down the road. We've got a new battery and a new 8-year-100,000-mile warranty." Get back to us in 2030 and maybe we'll have a better idea then.

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We like the Bolt as a short distance car but we also want to be able to travel long distances without the hassles of EVs. We think having 1 BEV and 1 plug in hybrid will be the best combination, much as I would like to avoid internal combustion engines and all their complications.
 

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Go back six years here and read the exact same logic for waiting. "There will be better, faster charging, lower cost, higher tech options coming soon."
Oh, I totally agree. I didn't wait to get my Leaf. Didn't wait to get my Bolt.
They were the cars I wanted at the time that met my needs, and I don't regret that.

What I am saying is that there isn't such a car that my wife wants right now.
And as it makes sense for us to re-evaluate when I retire, there will be more / better options then.

I totally agree, if you find the car you want that meets your needs now, do NOT wait for more better options, as you will always be waiting for more better options. ;-)
 

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I鈥檝e thought about this a lot, but can鈥檛 think of a car I鈥檇 want for long distance driving. None of the EVs frankly charge fast enough. Arguably, if they do, the charging stations in demand have lines and waiting periods. I鈥檇 rather just fly or rent a car and put miles on a car that isn鈥檛 my own.
 
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