[LoneR]

The design is for safety. It seems this thread is self-demoting to a "muh freedums" discussion.

 

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I don't here any noise makers on the PHEVs I've seen. Do they get a pass?

I will probably leave mine activated. It depends how it sounds and how loud it is.

 

[shrox]

The design is for safety. It seems this thread is self-demoting to a "muh freedums" discussion.

Some people simply find the the "mosquito idle" excruciatingly irritating. Autistic people with phenomenal hearing for instance. It's not ADA compliant.

 

[MiG]

Some people simply find the the "mosquito idle" excruciatingly irritating. Autistic people with phenomenal hearing for instance. It's not ADA compliant.

Nor are any privately purchased vehicles ADA compliant.

 

[shrox]

Nor are any privately purchased vehicles ADA compliant.

Yes, but one can have them modified, by self or a company. DAV does many modifications for free. Even shower bars and ramps for my wife.

 

[MiG]

Yes, but one can have them modified, by self or a company. DAV does many modifications for free. Even shower bars and ramps for my wife.

But will they remove a federally required safety device?

 

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[Electric Personality]

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lol

 

[JDPaskal]

I wish our EUV sounded like a V8 instead of a UFO. There is a Camaro across the street we hear start up and leave every morning right around 630....now that's the pedestrian warning sound I like...

 

[shrox]

But will they remove a federally required safety device?

Maybe, there are waivers for certain things. You can Google it.

 

[jreddington]

It is in the US, where the OP's profile they're from:

Federal Register :: Request Access

So a farting noise wouldn’t qualify?

 

[Dimitrij]

I don't here any noise makers on the PHEVs I've seen. Do they get a pass?

I will probably leave mine activated. It depends how it sounds and how loud it is.

Which PHEVs were those?

We have had 6 vehicles with electric propulsion in the family, including a Volt (I guess it's PHEV, or maybe EREV?), two Toyota hybrids, one Honda hybrid and two Bolts. Every one of them without exception has had the "robot choir". I also know that Hyundai hybrids and the Audi PHEV have the "choir".

 

[LoneR]

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lol

I watched that video. As soon as he said "I tend to not agree with the law", I knew muh freedums were under attack and I need watch no more.

 

[paddypods]

The 2022 EUV does have this "feature".

From page 76 in the 2022 EUV manual:

Pedestrian Safety Signal
The vehicle is equipped with automatic sound generation.
The automatic sound is generated to indicate the vehicle presence to pedestrians.

United States
The sound changes if the vehicle is speeding up or slowing down.
It is activated when the vehicle is shifted into a forward gear or R (Reverse), up to 33 km/h (20 mph).

Canada
The sound changes if the vehicle is speeding up or slowing down. It is activated when the vehicle is shifted into a forward gear or R (Reverse), up to 23 km/h (14 mph).

When I was originally comparing the '22 and the '23, I thought I read that both model years include the signal. But after buying my '22, I assumed I read it wrong, because I can't hear any sound. I've driven with windows down, leaving my neighborhood, where I drive less than 20 mph.

Maybe I'm going deaf.

 

[EV Trek 37604]

When I was originally comparing the '22 and the '23, I thought I read that both model years include the signal. But after buying my '22, I assumed I read it wrong, because I can't hear any sound. I've driven with windows down, leaving my neighborhood, where I drive less than 20 mph.

Maybe I'm going deaf.

When not wearing my hearing aids I can only hear mine when I am sitting in line at a drive through with the window down and the sound reflecting off a wall. With my hearing aids I can hear it when cruising through parking lots, evidently pedestrians either don’t hear it or they ignore the sound because it does not sound like a car, they never get out of the way, they just keep walking down the middle of the isle.

 

[lynoise]

The noise I'd like to do something about is the blast from the horn when all I intend is a courtesy beep. Does anyone know of a mod or hack to make the horn button easier to modulate?

Yes. A thousand times yes!
There is a notable time requirement in how long you must "tap" the steering wheel before the horn will sound. It seems like it is only on the first hit though. If I time it right I can tap it for say .8 seconds then repeatedly tap it over and over in under .5 seconds for very quick toots. It's just the first one inevitably ends up a longer honk because I have to react to it actually making a noise to let go. I started a thread a while ago on it and some people notice it while other do not. My Wife has no issues with it (although she typically lays on the horn anyway). I just want a barely notable quick "beep", and I end up with a "beeeep".

 

[finch4ever]

I wish our EUV sounded like a V8 instead of a UFO. There is a Camaro across the street we hear start up and leave every morning right around 630....now that's the pedestrian warning sound I like...

No thanks. EV is EV, ICE is ICE

 

[404 Not Found]

Which PHEVs were those?

We have had 6 vehicles with electric propulsion in the family, including a Volt (I guess it's PHEV, or maybe EREV?), two Toyota hybrids, one Honda hybrid and two Bolts. Every one of them without exception has had the "robot choir". I also know that Hyundai hybrids and the Audi PHEV have the "choir".

I don't know which ones. I suppose it depends how new it is. I do know I see way more totally silent cars than I do ones with noise makers. My new Bolt will have Pedestrian Braking. Isn't that good enough?

 

[EV Trek 37604]

Yes. A thousand times yes!
There is a notable time requirement in how long you must "tap" the steering wheel before the horn will sound. It seems like it is only on the first hit though. If I time it right I can tap it for say .8 seconds then repeatedly tap it over and over in under .5 seconds for very quick toots. It's just the first one inevitably ends up a longer honk because I have to react to it actually making a noise to let go. I started a thread a while ago on it and some people notice it while other do not. My Wife has no issues with it (although she typically lays on the horn anyway). I just want a barely notable quick "beep", and I end up with a "beeeep".

My Spark EV had a pedestrian warning honk, you pull the headlight bright switch and it would beep a couple times quickly if you were under 30mph.

 

[GregBrew]

You could remove the fuse and jump across the circuit, add an inline fuse holder on the power side and run the wires into the cabin and add a switch on the dash to have control over the noise generator. Simple and clean!

Something you can remove without any modifications to the cars electrical systems and detection free!

Not "detection free" after a collision, unless you run around and replace the jumper, wiring and switch with the original fuse.