[TotaledJetta]

Monday night, NPR ran a story on EV's in Norway. They said the Ampera-e had a 15 month backlog. That is certainly different than Fremont Chevrolet that had over 100 in stock the last time I talked to the salesman. Of course, they have incredible subsides in Norway and a government that support the switch over to electric vehicles. The NPR story showed quite a bit of detail on the Ampera-e and while they mentioned it was a collaboration between Opel and GM they never mentioned that the Bolts are being sold in the US. Looked virtually identical.

 

[Bazinga]

holy cow, and I thought the U.S. rollout was slow, but a 15 month backlog for the Ampera-E sounds a whole lot worse. Technically, Chevy is under GM so I guess it's an indirect way of mentioning Chevy.

 

[Ampera e]

In the Netherlands, last year they said ordering would be possible 2017Q1. But submitting orders was not possible before end of april. And now they say delivery will start mid 2018. Only one or two hands full of "top spec" cars may be delivered in the fourth 2017Q4.

I have submitted an order, hoping to get my hands on one of those. But I am not very optimistic.

 

[DaV8or]

To my knowledge, Opel had zero to do with the Bolt... I mean Ampera e. Maybe the collaboration cited was about the placement of the Opel badging on the Chevy. :laugh: I guess now that Opel belongs to PSA, there is a limited purchase agreement though.

 

[Electro]

Holy moly that is absolutely horrendous. But for what reason is it on such a serious backlog? And if that's what the backlog is like, what's the order books looking like over there?

 

[Sean Nelson]

Holy moly that is absolutely horrendous. But for what reason is it on such a serious backlog? And if that's what the backlog is like, what's the order books looking like over there?

That's similar to what's happening here in Canada. Where I live in British Columbia I understand that there were only 70 Bolts allocated for the entire province, and no more will be delivered until next year.

 

[SparkE]

GM is allocating the limited number of vehicles where they will do the most good : places where they get CARB/ZEV credits.

I think (my opinion) that they are starting slow and slowly ramping up production to get all the bugs worked out. Who wants to recall 45,000 cars for updates/upgrades? Considering the complaints about the seats (same people sitting in 7 different cars will find 2-4 seats OK, 1 or 2 fantastic, and 1-4 crappy) it appears to be a good thing that the car is being rolled out slowly.

Since GM has sold Opel, I would guess that the absolute smallest number of Ampera-e vehicles that they can get away with contractually will be delivered to Europe.

 

[Sean Nelson]

I think (my opinion) that they are starting slow and slowly ramping up production to get all the bugs worked out.

I am eagerly awaiting some evidence of this...

 

[DaV8or]

GM is allocating the limited number of vehicles where they will do the most good : places where they get CARB/ZEV credits.

I think (my opinion) that they are starting slow and slowly ramping up production to get all the bugs worked out. Who wants to recall 45,000 cars for updates/upgrades? Considering the complaints about the seats (same people sitting in 7 different cars will find 2-4 seats OK, 1 or 2 fantastic, and 1-4 crappy) it appears to be a good thing that the car is being rolled out slowly.

Since GM has sold Opel, I would guess that the absolute smallest number of Ampera-e vehicles that they can get away with contractually will be delivered to Europe.

Agreed. I think they are being cautious about a product that they know could have significant bugs. The threads here at this site illustrate that potential. They really don't want to have massive recalls, or service issues effecting a huge number of cars across the world.

They have dumped a good number in CARB/ZEV states to help them build as many pick ups and Cameros as people want. In those CARB/ZEV states one would expect Bolts to be selling really well, but they're not. Why would GM want cars sitting on lots all around the world? If you can't sell your electric car in California, why would the chances be better in Canada, Norway, or any other state?

Having said that, I do think they should send all future production to those places to meet whatever demand there is. California clearly has enough Bolts on hand to meet demand here.