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Hi All,

I've been reading up on the forum and there's plenty of good info here!

I got my 2018 Premier Bolt (loaded) at the end of April 2018 after deciding to get my Model 3 deposit I placed on April 1, 2016 back from Elon. Got the cash back, but no interest... :|

Couldn't justify the M3 at almost 2X cost of the Bolt after considering federal credit, state exemption (that just expired in WA in May) and negotiated discount. I wasn't amped about Chevy, but after driving it and now owning it for over a month, it's great! The tech is so much more advanced than my previous 7YO car. I was also able to use 3 dealers against one another with TrueCar quote to get a nice discount. There seems to be a lot of cars in the Seattle area. It's the first time I've negotiated a car deal purely via emails. So easy!

The other great factor is that my workplace has 4 L2 charge stations at my building, and there are 7 of us with EV/PHs. 2 Leafs, 3 Volts, 1 Model 3, and my Bolt. The M3 and I charge once every ~2-4 days, while the Leafs and Volts are plugged in every day. My daily commute is ~45 miles a day.

I did have a ChargePoint L2 installed in my garage at home just in case I need to top off if I'm not at the office for an extended period, but that should be rare. The ChargePoint charger links to my power company rates and allows me to see my cost of energy via mobile app. So far in my 1+ month of ownership, I've only spent $5 to charge! Most of that was just to make sure the home charger works. My goal is to see if I can stay under $20 for the year! The rest of my energy is free (to me) from work.

I've been to a gas station 2 times just to grab a drink/snack, and I love the feeling of not having to deal with the pump. But I'm not completely exempt since I occasionally have to gas up the wife's hybrid SUV.

The M3 is a nice car, but the finish, materials, etc. FOR ME did not equate to a $50k+ car. Plus it doesn't have a hatchback so not as good as a utility car for me than the Bolt. Never took the M3 for a test drive, but I'm sure it's a beast. I do wish the Bolt had ACC for the stop an go traffic on the interstate.

Anyway, good to meet you, and thanks for the info you've shared. Looking forward to learning more and contributing where I can!
 

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The financial rewards of ev ownership are undeniable. I imagine you saved ~$150 in your first month in fuel charges alone.

Your rational for choosing a bolt over an m3 is exactly why I purchased a bolt too. The m3 is generously specced on range/performance and looks nice (albeit with an unsafe UI) but at 2x the cost, it's mainly emotionally driven Tesla fans who are buying.

M3 test drives? That's filed between faeries and unicorns.
 

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M3 test drives? That's filed between faeries and unicorns.
I didn't know they didn't provide M3 test drives! When I visited the showroom to see it in person, the sales guy asked 'have you test driven a Tesla?' I thought he was leading me to try the M3. I didn't want to waste my time after deciding it wasn't for me and assumed that I would have needed to trek to some other location off the mall property I was in to actually do so.

That's an awful lot of faith to buy it, and then try it...
 

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I didn't know they didn't provide M3 test drives! When I visited the showroom to see it in person, the sales guy asked 'have you test driven a Tesla?' I thought he was leading me to try the M3. I didn't want to waste my time after deciding it wasn't for me and assumed that I would have needed to trek to some other location off the mall property I was in to actually do so.

That's an awful lot of faith to buy it, and then try it...

I've purchased my last four vehicles without even seeing one in person.


Used 1996 Ford Ranger EV, new 2011 Volt, new 2011 Leaf, new 2017 Bolt.


Haven't regretted a single purchase.
 

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The financial rewards of ev ownership are undeniable. I imagine you saved ~$150 in your first month in fuel charges alone.

Your rational for choosing a bolt over an m3 is exactly why I purchased a bolt too. The m3 is generously specced on range/performance and looks nice (albeit with an unsafe UI) but at 2x the cost, it's mainly emotionally driven Tesla fans who are buying.

M3 test drives? That's filed between faeries and unicorns.
The financial rewards are indeed undeniable but how did you arrive at the ,"you saved ~$150 in your first month in fuel charges alone" figure?
 

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The financial rewards are indeed undeniable but how did you arrive at the ,"you saved ~$150 in your first month in fuel charges alone" figure?
Here are the back of the envelope calculations: 45 miles/day commuting * 22 wordays = 990 miles just for commuting. Let's round that up to 1300 for commuting plus non-commuting miles. He has a 7yo car. . Let's say it gets 25 mpg. 1300/25 = 52 gallons of gas consumed in a month by his previous car. $3/gal = $156. Subtract the $5 spent on fueling his bolt, and he saved $151.

I know I'm making some assumptions, but I don't think the numbers are terribly far off.
 

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I know I'm making some assumptions, but I don't think the numbers are terribly far off.
Your numbers are pretty spot on! Previous car got 23 mpg, and your assumed monthly mileage is close. Gas in my area is more like ~$3.25, and I had to use mid or super, so call that at least $3.40 and I've saved a bit more. Nice assessment!

Now, just need to figure out where that saved cash will go... :)
 

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Your numbers are pretty spot on! Previous car got 23 mpg, and your assumed monthly mileage is close. Gas in my area is more like ~$3.25, and I had to use mid or super, so call that at least $3.40 and I've saved a bit more. Nice assessment!

Now, just need to figure out where that saved cash will go... :)

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Dear GJETSON

Thanks for the note.

Believe it or not, I am new to social media. I'm still unfamiliar with many of its procedures.
I thought I had responded to your note, but I suspect I was unsuccessful.

I spent a lot of effort evaluating the Ryobi electric riding mower and decided against.

For me, the biggest drawback was routine battery care.
It is recommended that the battery be connected at all times when not in use.
Unfortunately, it is not practicable for me.

I’ve heard rumors that EGO Power will introduce a lawn tractor in a year or two.
I am very receptive. I currently have their push mower, leaf vac and snow blower.
I am very pleased with their performance.

I always enjoy your comments and observations on the Bolt blog.

Bernie
 

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At my office there are 3 free L2 chargers. When I was leasing the 2015 Fiat500e, we all tried to share throughout the day among maybe 4 Leafs, a BMW hybrid (whose highly-paid owner would be the first to arrive and the last to leave and would hog a central stall and leave the charging cable in place all day long), and my Fiat. When I bought the Bolt I returned the EV RFID card to the company, as my commute is now maintained by home charging alone, where I pay 2 cents a mile for energy.
 
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