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After this recall, will you think twice about plugging people in?

Paranoid much?

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So I plugged in to charge at a public level 2. Come back 8 hours later to find another bolt there! So awesome.

I finish my charge and am so excited to plug them in. Like a good samaritan, I hook up their car to the level 2 charger. I notice three flashes and exclaim “wow they are already 75% charged at least well I am happy to top them off”

I drive away.

I start thinking... what if they don’t have hilltop reserve on. What if they don’t come back for hours?

my girlfriend starts laughing.... “what if the owner comes back and his car is on fire because YOU plugged them in”

i laugh a little too. And then die inside.
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I have never experienced anything like this before, so it's just foreign to me. Maybe that's privilege. But I hate that word for this - everyone should be "privileged" enough to hold a rake in their front yard without harassments.
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I have never experienced anything like this before, so it's just foreign to me. Maybe that's privilege. But I hate that word for this - everyone should be "privileged" enough to hold a rake in their front yard without harassments.
Remember a while ago in NY Central Park where buddy bird-watcher says to a woman with her unleashed dog that the dog should be leashed. So she retaliates by calling the cops saying a black man is threatening her. Somebody had video'd the encounter.
Fortunately she got in to a world of trouble for that.

I don't touch people's things without permission. Maybe the open charger door is implied permission. But to disconnect without a sign or something saying go ahead....not. I've seen people mention things through Plugshare though. But you have to go look.
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Plenty of places in the USA are like that, it's usually just spite or misdirected anger. I had a neighbor like that, fortunately it was never directed at me.
Yup. The United States has a real problem with institutional racism, which is both demonstrable and provable. Racism on a personal level is far more limited, but in my current industry, we have regular trainings to avoid discrimination and disparate treatment (we have volumes of data proving it is still a common occurrence). Policing, in particular, has a serious problem, where certain groups are disproportionately the victims of law enforcement abuse.

The fact that some people have to walk around worrying about how every action they take is perceived and scrutinized by law enforcement and other citizens to the point that common acts of decency (such as plugging in another EV) is the real travesty with American society.

And yes, not recognizing or understanding that discrimination is "privileged" thinking.
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Where do you live, and what on earth is going on there to cause this situation?
Sadly, in a country where you can get shot for asking someone to wear a mask, I understand his reticence.

Yup. The United States has a real problem with institutional racism...
It's far more than that. It's this weird mix of racism, political polarization, religious indoctrination, gun rights, self-appointed militias, and probably even more that leave those of us on the outside shaking our heads in disbelief.
The reason I ask (and no, an answer was not given) is that very often there is a misperception of persecution. I've seen far too many people buy into the "victim" culture and now I question everything. Was that person really harassed for hold a rake? Or was he holding it in a provocative manner, maybe to make someone think he was pointing a shotgun at them? Context is everything. Often it is those who are claiming to be the victim who are actually inciting the violence.

And I have not (yet) heard of someone getting shot for asking another to wear a mask. There are plenty of threats of course.
Sadly, in a country where you can get shot for asking someone to wear a mask, I understand his reticence.


It's far more than that. It's this weird mix of racism, political polarization, religious indoctrination, gun rights, self-appointed militias, and probably even more that leave those of us on the outside shaking our heads in disbelief.
And sadly for us up here in sleepy ol' Canada, these attitudes and behaviors are blossoming being emboldened by what they're seeing being normalized in the states by all of half the voting population.
President Obama has told of hearing the click of people locking their car doors as he walked past on a street.
The reason I ask (and no, an answer was not given) is that very often there is a misperception of persecution. I've seen far too many people buy into the "victim" culture and now I question everything. Was that person really harassed for hold a rake? Or was he holding it in a provocative manner, maybe to make someone think he was pointing a shotgun at them? Context is everything. Often it is those who are claiming to be the victim who are actually inciting the violence.

And I have not (yet) heard of someone getting shot for asking another to wear a mask. There are plenty of threats of course.
I live in Texas suburbia.

I was literally raking my front yard and asked to drop it while they had hands at the ready.

Nothing about that interaction seems unclear to me.

A suppose I, an Ivy League milquetoast tall black guy was somehow acting threateningly by just existing, sure.

Anyway I'm done. Period.
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I live in Texas suburbia.

I was literally raking my front yard and asked to drop it while they had hands at the ready.

Nothing about that interaction seems unclear to me.

A suppose I, an Ivy League milquetoast tall black guy was somehow acting threateningly by just existing, sure.

Anyway I'm done. Period.
These are the details I was asking for, thank you. None of them were stated before. For all I knew, you could have been referring to some case that you saw sensationalized on the news and not something that happened to you.

I am done too, this conversation had gone on too long that people are definitely misunderstanding what I'm trying to say, and every post I make seems to be digging myself deeper into a hole.
It's far more than that. It's this weird mix of racism, political polarization, religious indoctrination, gun rights, self-appointed militias, and probably even more that leave those of us on the outside shaking our heads in disbelief.
I would caution against conflating systemic racism with hegemony. Both are connected in American society, but racial hegemony is no longer required since we traded chattel slavery for indentured servitude and prison labor. The polarization is by design, and its purpose is to distract Americans from the fact that their government no longer works for them.
...I have not (yet) heard of someone getting shot for asking another to wear a mask.
Then you're not paying attention.

Family Dollar security guard shot and killed in Michigan after telling after telling customer to put on face mask

Store guard stabbed 27 times for asking women to wear masks

I would caution against conflating systemic racism with hegemony.
I wasn't conflating them, I was listing a series of symptoms. Such symptoms don't have to be related be a societal problem.
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I live in Texas suburbia.

I was literally raking my front yard and asked to drop it while they had hands at the ready.

Nothing about that interaction seems unclear to me.

A suppose I, an Ivy League milquetoast tall black guy was somehow acting threateningly by just existing, sure.

Anyway I'm done. Period.
Ivy league, that was it. Milk and toast is scary to some...
This depends on where you live. In general in my area free level 2 probably outnumber paid 8:1.
Indeed it does. I should have qualified my statement with "in my country" for that sentence.
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President Obama has told of hearing the click of people locking their car doors as he walked past on a street.
So what's your point. Makes since to me.
So what's your point. Makes since to me.
The demonstration of overt racism was "the point". Your point is clear.
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I wasn't conflating them, I was listing a series of symptoms. Such symptoms don't have to be related be a societal problem.
That's fair, but my point is that they aren't "symptoms," they are purposeful tactics.
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That's fair, but my point is that they aren't "symptoms," they are purposeful tactics.
To the extent that that's true, I think it bodes even less well...
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When I was in high school, I got to school one day and parked next to a Chevy hot rod with the headlights left on. I opened its door and turned out the light. My friends were like "oh man! you're gonna get your ass kicked! never touch anyone's car!" Ever since then I've stayed away. :)

The CHARGE PORT DOOR OPEN idea is great, if everyone learns it as a customary signal. Except perhaps in bad weather.
I tried that with a BMW recently -- but there were so many gosh darn buttons that I couldn't find the light switch!
On a Bolt, leave the charge port door open and you can get rain and blown sand in the J1772 :( . Maybe we need to use a "please plug me in when you're done" hang-tag instead.
I know this is somewhat of an old discussion. I wouldn't plug anyone in. In my younger days I was like a bull in a china shop, and with my luck I would break their charge door off or bend the pins in their connecter and then feel obligated to fix it.
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