I want to remove or at least disable the cellular phone functionality from my Bolt. I'll get updates by connecting to my wifi at home. No need for big brother to track me.
Where / how?
Where / how?
Imagine what Tesla owners must worry about with all those cameras on every vehicle streaming video to the mothership to help teach Elon's AI neural nets to drive...I occasionally worry about GM knowing my every car move - when, where, how fast, etc etc.
Depends what you mean by "tracking". They have the data for sure. How long they keep it, what they use if for, to whom do they give it, and so on is not known. I know https://www.voltstats.net/ is able to access some of it, but not all of it. My data are at: https://www.voltstats.net/BoltEV/Stats/Details/10502 for example. We know that GM can access our location anytime in response to simple commercial inquiries, and to members of OnStar requiring a wide variety of services.,,,,,,,,, I seriously doubt GM is tracking your Bolt EV.
That's too bad! GM actually seems to better at hugs than any other car company I've ever owned a car from. (Or at least now that I've switched dealers for maintenance.) ...Still, I'm straight, so I'd rather get hug from a female, and all they have is dudes.Still waiting for my hug. :x
That's too bad! GM actually seems to better at hugs than any other car company I've ever owned a car from. (Or at least now that I've switched dealers for maintenance.) ...Still, I'm straight, so I'd rather get hug from a female, and all they have is dudes.
While interesting in detail and not surprising, unfortunately these details do not tell us what is happening to the data now, nor what will happen to the data in the future....... I was the database and data analysis designer for Ford's Focus BEV during its first model year. The car has a cellular module with a unique IMEI, which is like your computer's MAC number. The telemetry was gathered from the OBD unit, ........
What evidence do you have that "big brother" is tracking you? Just curious...I want to remove or at least disable the cellular phone functionality from my Bolt. I'll get updates by connecting to my wifi at home. No need for big brother to track me.
Where / how?
I got here through a google search on the topic, and am interested.I just got my Bolt, and being paranoid about data privacy, the first thing i did was start hunting for a way to disable the OnSpy tracking. Theres many people complaining about this, but no real advice other than pulling the fuse, which breaks Bluetooth mic - not an option. So out came the tools, and i proceeded to deface my spanking new Bolt, just off the dealers lot.......
An hour later.....
I'm happy to say it is indeed possible to permanently disable OnStar, and it is relatively easy to do, there are some hidden screws and clips though.
I see this is an old thread, but if there's still interest Ill be glad to provide pics and short tutorial.
There is an important distinction between the two. Firstly, my phone location is always disabled. My phone runs xposed framework with privacy guard to ensure my apps dont leak data. You are correct that cell phone triangulation is possible. However that is not within the realm of the private sector. I am not so concerned about the Gov having (some of) my data - I have nothing really to hide. But when an independent 3rd party company with self-interest in mind can minute by minute track my every move, and even worse, has been known to act on that data against my best interests (ie sharing with insurance companies) - that is deeply concerning.There is certainly an argument to be made that the ship has sailed and the horse has left the barn. If you have a cellphone then someone knows where you are at all times (assuming you have your phone.) So, the data the car is sending may be considered somewhat redundant at that point. They can get your speed from your cellphone as well as how hard you accelerate and decelerate. Basically anything the car can tell someone, so can your phone. Also, a lot of large cities install license plate readers in town so they know where your car has been and when. If you pay for things with a credit or debit card you're leaving digital footprints of not only where you were and when but what kind of money you spend and how you spend it. The government gets regular reports from all your employers about how much money you made. Your bank tells on you too. Thus, there is an argument that you basically cannot be "off the grid" unless you move into an Amish community. Even then, they technically use the roads so they are probably partially tracked too.
Now, I'm not saying I don't agree with those who would like to get the government and/or GM to butt out. I really have serious reservations about all the data we're constantly providing to people with little recourse. I'm just saying it is so pervasive now that it would make George Orwell sick to his stomach. Big brother didn't need to install spy TVs in our homes, we bought the spy hardware and paid good money for it. We're under more surveillance now than in 1984 and mostly we just ignore it. The one thing a book like 1984 got wrong is that there are too many people to harass everyone. So, they have to content themselves with picking and choosing. Luckily, most of us are too boring and/or too unimportant to harass.
There is certainly an argument to be made that the ship has sailed and the horse has left the barn. If you have a cellphone...
...license plate readers...
...credit or debit card...
...regular reports from all your employers...
You're both right. From an individual's perspective, a great deal of their personal / private data is accessible to other entities, whether governmental or private. That ship has largely sailed. However, not every piece of data is accessible to every entity, and it can be worthwhile to prevent entity A from having my location data even if entity B already has it....I am not so concerned about the Gov having (some of) my data - I have nothing really to hide. But when an independent 3rd party company with self-interest in mind...
Can't you just pull the Onstar fuse and accomplish the same effect? Thanks.Part 2:
The lower unit is what we're after. Remove the 2 screws as shown, and slide the unit out. There are 3 connectors.
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release the safety clips, and pull to remove. Reassemble the vehicle is reverse order.
Thats it!
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