[BoltFan]

Well we're up to 4.00 / gal. once again in Calif. all the usual reasons (excuses) as to why this is happening to us whereas the national avg. price is 2.83 / gal.


So the question is ... will this help to further drive up EV sales in the Golden State?

 

[Terry Hancock]

Only in CA. You are in a world of your own, when compared to the rest of the USA.

 

[Mister Dave]

Only in CA. You are in a world of your own, when compared to the rest of the USA.

https://www.gasbuddy.com/GasPriceMap?z=4

Amazing how easy it is to make out the outline of California on this map.

More like drive more people to other states. That affects a lot more than car prices/choices. How's your grocery bill?

Real estate tax? A friend over here is moving to Tennessee next month. He says for his brand new house on 4 acres his real Estate tax will be $1600.

Our taxes here can't hold a candle to California. I lived there 5 years. When I moved to high SALT Illinois I got an instant pay raise. Now I'm considering my next raise. Tennessee is sounding pretty good.

 

[discodanman45]

California is having problems with their refineries right now. I think one had a fire and a few others are doing maintenance. We are also switching over to our summer blend, which always has supply issues. They are predicting it will rise to about $4.20 per gallon by Memorial Day weekend. I enjoy filling up my Bolt for $7

 

[psyflyjohn]

As usual, I'm sitting out on my patio, reading these posts. 72 degrees, sunny, and surrounded by blue sky and flowers. I'll let you in on a little secret - California is worth it. Especially with my whole house solar paying the energy bills for the two Bolts. Life is good here...

 

[BoltFan]

Yes these are the "reasons" or excuses that we've all had to deal with for years on end. (Refinery fires, Reformulations, Reworking the refinery pipes blah blah blah all the while Chevron rakes in the dough). Ok there may be some validity in some cases driving the market price upwards and of course our high taxes are another factor. But will this drive more people to make the "right" decision and get an EV? Will it be so painful that we see people giving up their SUV / Panzerwagens / and Full sized trucks ?

Maybe people will perceive this a temporary pain point, endure it once again, and hope prices go back down. Maybe a few highway billboards with EV vs Gas Cost would bring the point closer to home or some new TV ad campaign from Electrify America with the cost and convenience comparison ... wouldn't it be nice if you would never have to go to the gas station again? And if you have solar, like many of us do, you're basically driving for free.

 

[Mister Dave]

LOL - 72 degrees, sunny, and surrounded by blue sky and flowers.

It's 72 etcetera here too, without the homeless camps up and down the streets of my city.

 

[Mister Dave]

But will this drive more people to make the "right" decision and get an EV? Will it be so painful that we see people giving up their SUV / Panzerwagens / and Full sized trucks ?

If you have to make it artificially painful is it the "right" choice?

I bought my EV because it's a fun car. There's no pain involved.

That goes for my V8 4X4 pickup truck too. They both serve their respective purposes.

It seems that repeatedly we see a demonization of pickup and SUV owners from folks who bought an EV. Can't we have both? A lot of us do. Maybe more than you'll ever know.

 

[Cataract2]

Yes these are the "reasons" or excuses that we've all had to deal with for years on end. (Refinery fires, Reformulations, Reworking the refinery pipes blah blah blah all the while Chevron rakes in the dough). Ok there may be some validity in some cases driving the market price upwards and of course our high taxes are another factor. But will this drive more people to make the "right" decision and get an EV? Will it be so painful that we see people giving up their SUV / Panzerwagens / and Full sized trucks ?

Maybe people will perceive this a temporary pain point, endure it once again, and hope prices go back down. Maybe a few highway billboards with EV vs Gas Cost would bring the point closer to home or some new TV ad campaign from Electrify America with the cost and convenience comparison ... wouldn't it be nice if you would never have to go to the gas station again? And if you have solar, like many of us do, you're basically driving for free.

Times I wish I took the position in San Diago instead of Maine. I know I would love living there. With that said. I have to admit, watching the gas price rise and you know what. I don't care. It's so nice not being bothered by that.

 

[drdiesel1]

I have an exit strategy from CA. My Bolt is just over 2 years old. It's the last time I needed to
register it here. Retirement will be great outside of this state. Good luck to those that will remain here.

I purchased 20 acres for a crazy price in a sunshine state with no salt or air pollution. Can't wait!

 

[Mister Dave]

I have an exit strategy from CA. My Bolt is just over 2 years old. It's the last time I needed to
register it here. Retirement will be great outside of this state. Good luck to those that will remain here.

I purchased 20 acres for a crazy price in a sunshine state with no salt or air pollution. Can't wait!

You'll enjoy the view of the mountains on your way out. I don't think I ever appreciated it more than when I was no longer going to be a resident. I was finally a tourist again.

 

[BoltAction]

As usual, I'm sitting out on my patio, reading these posts. 72 degrees, sunny, and surrounded by blue sky and flowers. I'll let you in on a little secret - California is worth it. Especially with my whole house solar paying the energy bills for the two Bolts. Life is good here...

What is this "gas" that you speak of?

California is totally worth it. I also have solar on my rooftop pumping clean energy into my Bolt. I lived in two Midwestern states before and coming back to California was the greatest feeling in the world.

 

[GregBrew]

LOL - 72 degrees, sunny, and surrounded by blue sky and flowers.

It's 72 etcetera here too, without the homeless camps up and down the streets of my city.

You might consider a photo that's not obsolete. The homeless encampments on the Santa Ana River in this photo were eliminated over a year ago. At least try to be current in your jealous rage...

 

[Mister Dave]

You might consider a photo that's not obsolete. The homeless encampments on the Santa Ana River in this photo were eliminated over a year ago. At least try to be current in your jealous rage...

I grabbed one of convenience. The truth is they've spread since then. Spin it any way you like. You're entitled to defend your home turf by all means.

 

[IndySurfer]

Our taxes here can't hold a candle to California. I lived there 5 years. When I moved to high SALT Illinois I got an instant pay raise. Now I'm considering my next raise. Tennessee is sounding pretty good.

Dude - Illinois is about at dysfunctional politically as California, they have crazy high property taxes trapping people into their homes, high gas taxes, high crime, corrupt government, junk bond status with the unpayable pensions - AND they have total crap weather to boot!

California has many of these political/cost problems too, but most of the State is total paradise in terms of weather and geography. So alot of people are like me willing to put up with this dysfunction to enjoy the weather, coasts, mountains and deserts. That said, I would never dream of paying the high costs to live in the Bay Area and parts of Los Angeles dealing with the aggressive pan handlers, drug addicts and crime that comes along with it. Nor would I want to live in the interior where it can be Arizona hot and hours away from the coasts. There are some real shithole places in California not worth paying the high costs of living.

I was born in Chicago and grew up in Indiana, and have now resided in paradise (North San Diego County) for 20+ years - the Midwest has some great people and good things to offer, but I can never go back to brutal winters and hot/muggy and buggy summers.

IRT - I have mixed feelings seeing the higher gas prices. I love that I am skating buy with my Bolt with low energy costs, but my wife is waiting in line at the Costco gas station every week trying to save a few bucks filling up the Honda mini-van.

 

[Mister Dave]

Dude - Illinois is about at dysfunctional politically as California, they have crazy high property taxes trapping people into their homes, high gas taxes, high crime, corrupt government, junk bond status with the unpayable pensions

Dude, I don't defend Illinois by any means. I'm just as aware of the problems here as I was when I lived in Prop 13 California. I know what I experienced. You can see the hills on summer days in Silicon Valley today, unlike when I lived there and that's a good thing but you still outdo every other state on a top ten list of the most polluted cities in the US.

- AND they have total crap weather to boot!

So does Canada but it's still popular with Canadians. It builds character. We adapt. Right now it's really nice here and we appreciate it even more when we can't take it for granted. We don't have earthquakes and everything is green 10 months of the year unlike Silicon Valley. And we don't seem to have massive wild fires - maybe because it DOES rain here throughout the year.

 

[Mister Dave]

California has many of these political/cost problems too, but most of the State is total paradise in terms of weather and geography. So alot of people are like me willing to put up with this dysfunction to enjoy the weather, coasts, mountains and deserts.

And the price. Nice that you can afford to live in one of the enclaves where you don't see how the rest of the people live. I'm personally very favorable to Monterrey and Carmel. But I still don't care for earthquakes. Maybe because I didn't grow up with them and am not able to pretend that I don't live on unstable earth.

That said, I would never dream of paying the high costs to live in the Bay Area and parts of Los Angeles dealing with the aggressive pan handlers, drug addicts and crime that comes along with it. Nor would I want to live in the interior where it can be Arizona hot and hours away from the coasts. There are some real shithole places in California not worth paying the high costs of living.

Kudos for your candor.

I was born in Chicago and grew up in Indiana, and have now resided in paradise (North San Diego County) for 20+ years - the Midwest has some great people and good things to offer, but I can never go back to brutal winters and hot/muggy and buggy summers.

There's always a spring and fall to follow. If you grew up in Chicago you know what we say here about weather. I'll let you repeat it.

IRT - I have mixed feelings seeing the higher gas prices. I love that I am skating buy with my Bolt with low energy costs, but my wife is waiting in line at the Costco gas station every week trying to save a few bucks filling up the Honda mini-van.

We had gas lines when I was there that cost me a new job. I was 3 hours late for my first day of work.

 

[Terry Hancock]

I have an exit strategy from CA. My Bolt is just over 2 years old. It's the last time I needed to
register it here. Retirement will be great outside of this state. Good luck to those that will remain here.

I purchased 20 acres for a crazy price in a sunshine state with no salt or air pollution. Can't wait!

Hope that was not acres in NM.

 

[Mister Dave]

Hope that was not acres in NM.

Wyoming maybe?

 

[ol3Faz]

California is having problems with their refineries right now. I think one had a fire and a few others are doing maintenance. We are also switching over to our summer blend, which always has supply issues. They are predicting it will rise to about $4.20 per gallon by Memorial Day weekend. I enjoy filling up my Bolt for $7

The refinery fires and equip malfunctions are as predictable this time of year as the sun coming up; in CA. It's certainly beyond any statistical chance of a 'coincidence'. It needs to be 'looked' into.