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North Carolina. All kinds of god fearing Fox News viewers.

If god wanted us to drive electric, then he would have never have invented diesel.

They love to roll coal down there.

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I myself try to not pigeon-hole people, as doing so is a sign of a lazy mind. People should be judged as individuals rather than as members of some other imagined tribe, as it's only fair.
It's pretty hard not to pigeon-hole people who gang up with a bunch of trucks to deliberately block EV charging stations. That's more than an imagined tribe.

It doesn't paint a picture of anyone else. But the verdict on those guys is in.
 

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Based on the age of those trucks, I'd guess it was kids (teens - early 20s) who need to bully people to justify spending their entire paychecks on dumb modifications, repairs, tires, and fuel.

I wish EV charging stalls were located furthest from entrances so that ICEing them was not tempting. This seems pretty clearly to be kids thinking they are being funny.
 

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That sort of attitude isn't new.

Priuses were getting keyed (paint gouged) in Petaluma 10 years ago. Petaluma is 40 minutes north of San Francisco, an interface between SF commuters and (some) diesel-loving farm boys beyond.

But I'm happy to say the region - Sonoma County - now has Priuses and Leafs everywhere.
 

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Seems to me it's both sides. Only the tree huggers are worse, IMO!
I remember when they were burning new Hummers on dealer lots
near LA because they were GAS GUZZLERS! Who's the idiots now ?
I didn't condone their actions. But I confess to smiling when I heard about it on the news. I still dream of living long enough to see all the monster trucks with saplings growing into the engine compartments.
 

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Based on the age of those trucks, I'd guess it was kids (teens - early 20s) who need to bully people to justify spending their entire paychecks on dumb modifications, repairs, tires, and fuel.

I wish EV charging stalls were located furthest from entrances so that ICEing them was not tempting. This seems pretty clearly to be kids thinking they are being funny.

I know you're making a general comment, and I don't fundamentally disagree, but in this case, it's a convenience store. From the photo, don't think the spots could have been further from the store, and still in the lot. The google maps satellite imagery is too old (it's just an empty lot) to know for sure. I expect these jerks would have blocked the spots regardless of placement. The brodozer driver sporting the reversed snapback probably though he was flirting with the Tesla driver, and once she saw how manly he was, she'd buy him a case of beer.
 

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These meatheads are pretty sad, but they are not the problem. The problem goes much higher, and deeper than them. We have been consorting with the most repressive regimes on the planet for my entire life, for our own convenience. It has bitten us more than once. I don't think for a minute that driving an electric car will prevent devastating climate change, but I feel a moral obligation to personally limit using fossil fuels, as much as possible. That includes a small, efficient house, mostly veggie diet, not flying, limiting unnecessary shopping, etc. We try to vote for the least harmful political candidates, but that hasn't done much. The system has gotten more, and more, controlled by big moneyed interests. I understand how we got here. I just wish it had turned out differently.
 

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I'd never condone property damage, but I've gotta admit more sympathy for people trying to prevent environmental destruction than for those that are peeved by the idea.
A question: what do we call a movement that is seeking to coerce others into accepting their ideology by terrorizing and intimidating them, e.g. through threatening them with bodily harm and destroying their property?
 

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There are jerks on both sides of every equation. Liberal, conservative, neo-con, socialist, whatever, it's the jerk that's the jerk, not necessarily his belief system. I can politely vehemently disagree with someone and not be an @[email protected] about it.
To paraphrase a slightly nutty conservative. "Just say 'no' to being a jerk."
 

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I didn't condone their actions. But I confess to smiling when I heard about it on the news. I still dream of living long enough to see all the monster trucks with saplings growing into the engine compartments.
I own a diesel truck. It's a necessity for me. It's not a jacked
up pile with big tires that belches smoke.
It's a 2016 Ram that's completely stock, quiet and very nice.
I use it to tow my excavator and other machines I own.

The Bolt isn't able to tow 14K lbs or make long trips from
CA to NV and beyond.
Most people that own a Bolt have other vehicles.
It's how they make sure they can get to where they need to be.
I use my Bolt as a daily driver. I'm not trying to save the planet.
I'm not a radical nut job. To each their own. Live and let live!


When I pull up in my truck to help idiot's out of snow banks because
they drive their Prius like an @ss Hat, they sure as sh!t don't care
that I'm driving a big diesel truck then. Careful for what you wish for.
Everything in this country gets to it's destination via, diesels.
Even your highly touted, Bolt came by diesel train and truck
so you could buy and enjoy it.
 

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I own a diesel truck. It's a necessity for me. It's not a jacked
up pile with big tires that belches smoke.
It's a 2016 Ram that's completely stock, quiet and very nice.
I use it to tow my excavator and other machines I own.

The Bolt isn't able to tow 14K lbs or make long trips from
CA to NV and beyond.
Most people that own a Bolt have other vehicles.
It's how they make sure they can get to where they need to be.
I use my Bolt as a daily driver. I'm not trying to save the planet.
I'm not a radical nut job. To each their own. Live and let live!


When I pull up in my truck to help idiot's out of snow banks because
they drive their Prius like an @ss Hat, they sure as sh!t don't care
that I'm driving a big diesel truck then. Careful for what you wish for.
Everything in this country gets to it's destination via, diesels.
Even your highly touted, Bolt came by diesel train and truck
so you could buy and enjoy it.
I have no problem whatsoever with people who own trucks for their work, whether they are farmers, construction workers, or whatever. My objection is to those who own them as a fashion statement.

I am trying to save the planet. I am a radical nut job. I want people's grandkids to live at least half as well as we do now.

We don't own any other vehicles than our Bolt. If we were still both working, we would have two. For our once a year trip out of state, this summer, we rented an ICE car. It looks like we won't have to do that next summer as VW Dieselgate has some "coming soon" that will allow us to use the Bolt.

I fully understand the huge problem we have getting off of diesel for transport. One problem coming up soon is the pending ban on bunker oil for shipping. This will put cargo ships in direct competition for the same fuel feedstock as diesel trucks, tractors, heavy equipment, and jet aviation.
 

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I object to people wearing big gold fashionable chains around their necks. Think of the waste of energy it took to mine, refine, forge and transport them! Don't get me started on monstrous data centers and gazillions of idling PCs, sucking up valuable oxygen and fueled by global warming. ;-)

In all seriousness, it is always commendable to want to leave the world a better place, and to do one's own best to do one's own small part as one sees it best.
 
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