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I will be taking my first long distance road trip this Saturday (11/09) from Southern California (Rancho Cucamonga) to Nevada (Primm) which is right at the CA/NV stateline.

1) Normally distance door to door is 181 miles SO theoretically the Bolt should be able to make it on a single charge BUT...
2) not to risk range exhaustion, I am stopping off at Baker, CA to DCFC at the EVGo which is 114 miles from start.
3) There are a series of altitude adjustments along the way both up and down. The biggest down grade is going into Primm.
4) My two charge stops will include the aforementioned Baker, CA DCFC and the Chargepoint Level 2 in Primm. There is only one Level 2 in Primm so my risk of it being busy or ICEd goes up substantially hence the planned charge in Baker.
5) I plan on leaving at 10:00 am which should let me experience lighter traffic.
6) Set my cruise control at 67 mph. Posted speed limit is 70 mph.
7) Arrive at my destination (Whiskey Pete's) by 2:00 pm.
8) Play/Win craps for a couple of hours. (4:00 pm)
9) "Enjoy" a buffet dinner. (5:00 pm)
10) Rinse and return home (10:00 pm)

Conditions of the trip: Bolt will be 100% charged, tires inflated to 44 psi+, single occupant (Me), no bags or junk in the trunk except for Ben Franklin and plus a few of his twin brothers, and weather is going to be nice (88/55) and sunny so no climate drain on the range.

At least that's the plan but you know the saying about the plans of mice and men.

Road report to follow...
 

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I will be taking my first long distance road trip this Saturday (11/09) from Southern California (Rancho Cucamonga) to Nevada (Primm) which is right at the CA/NV stateline.

1) Normally distance door to door is 181 miles SO theoretically the Bolt should be able to make it on a single charge BUT...
2) not to risk range exhaustion, I am stopping off at Baker, CA to DCFC at the EVGo which is 114 miles from start.
3) There are a series of altitude adjustments along the way both up and down. The biggest down grade is going into Primm.
4) My two charge stops will include the aforementioned Baker, CA DCFC and the Chargepoint Level 2 in Primm. There is only one Level 2 in Primm so my risk of it being busy or ICEd goes up substantially hence the planned charge in Baker.
5) I plan on leaving at 10:00 am which should let me experience lighter traffic.
6) Set my cruise control at 67 mph. Posted speed limit is 70 mph.
7) Arrive at my destination (Whiskey Pete's) by 2:00 pm.
8) Play/Win craps for a couple of hours. (4:00 pm)
9) "Enjoy" a buffet dinner. (5:00 pm)
10) Rinse and return home (10:00 pm)

Conditions of the trip: Bolt plus a few of his twin brothers, and weather is going to be nice (88/55) and sunny so no climate drain on the range.

At least that's1
 

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I will be using A Better Route Planner (ABRP) for the first time. I could not find it in app form for my iPhone so I planned it on desktop. According to ABRP, I will have an initial ascent of 4140 feet but then after the crest, it is a steady descent, where I will regen some range, into my first charge stop at Baker, CA, which is great news! The problem is that this graph is reversed on the return trip SO I may have to stop for a safety top off in Victorville on the return. We'll see...
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Thanks for the recommendation but you are evidently not from SoCal or you would know the flow of traffic is about...90 mph on the 2 lane on a Saturday. Semis of course are even more prohibited from driving that fast so I am trying to maximize my range and I will pick one to draft.

When you make this drive, you can drive 90 and let us know what your range is.
 

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On the return trip, I would suggest not topping off at Victorville and make a short stop at Baker to charge. It is important to support the middle of nowhere stations to encourage development.
 

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On the return trip, I would suggest not topping off at Victorville and make a short stop at Baker to charge. It is important to support the middle of nowhere stations to encourage development.
Very good point! I will only use Victorville in case of an emergency but I plan on leaving Baker at 80%. I’m just not sure what the return climb will do to my range.

Stay tuned!
 

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At 70mph,

Looks like Victorville to Baker, you can leave with 70% charge.
 

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Thanks for the recommendation but you are evidently not from SoCal or you would know the flow of traffic is about...90 mph on the 2 lane on a Saturday. Semis of course are even more prohibited from driving that fast so I am trying to maximize my range and I will pick one to draft.

When you make this drive, you can drive 90 and let us know what your range is.
I don't generally disclose where I live, but someone who looked closely at my posts might notice that I seem to have particular interest in EA's success (or lack of it) in bringing California charging stations on-line. A really acute observer might also notice that in my recent post about a 160-mile round trip, the distances are about what you might see on a trip along I-10 from the Inland Empire to Palm Springs. Of course, it's possible that “City A” and “City B” are some other cities, but even if that were the case, I don't think that SoCal driving is as unique as you might think.

But here is some wisdom I can pass along from a bona-fide SoCal driver: even on open roads, not all cars drive at 90 mph. But even if you follow the flow of traffic in the fastest lane, yes, you'll hit high speeds some of the time, but there will also typically be slowdowns. In most cases of SoCal driving, your average speed will be nothing like 90 mph.

(This anonymous bona-fide SoCal driver also says that some folks who live in SoCal would never publicly admit to doing so, a sentiment I can fully understand!)
 

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Trip update:

Well I made it to Baker as planned with over 100 mile range left. Since my destination was 53 miles away, I bypassed the EVgo station to continue on but I did notice there were no cars charging there. About 30 miles on, I checked the L2 at my destination and noticed only one of the two was in use. The other had been “available” all day. I grew suspicious and thought it could be ICEd when I got there SO I decided to turn around and drive back to Baker rather than risk it. That was 30 miles in the other direction totaling 60 miles!

At the EVgo, I tried both Janus and Chance. Neither one would initialize and EVgo customer service could not get them to work either so I had to use the slower Astrid!

in the meantime, Del Taco lunch:
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Hm... well, Astrid's 50KW is just about the max you can get in your Bolt.

In that case, can't wait for the other 2 DCFC stations to get up and running. Baker Travel Center (Chargepoint) and Ultra Gas and Mart (Electrified America).
 

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There was no convoy except trucks and everybody else drove like the Indy 500 trying to pass each other.
Perhaps you have a much stricter sense of a convoy than me.

Even when everyone wants to pass everyone else, people still find themselves driving behind other people and with other people behind them. You don't have to be following the same person for the entire trip, but you can usually pick someone reasonably sane can keep up with them for a while.
 

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BTW, I have plotted some ODB-II data from “an anonymous SoCal Bolt owner” who drover from the Inland Empire to Palm Springs and back following the flow of traffic much as I recommend. For the most part, higher speeds are only driven to avoid being “left behind”.

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The line tracks the average efficiency over a sliding half-mile window of the journey. The x-axis is speed and the y-axis is efficiency — lower values on the y-axis indicate better efficiency. Terrain, wind, temperature, and the presence of cars ahead or behind all mean that the efficiency at a given speed will vary. If you look at 50 mph, you'll see it either being very efficient or very inefficient, that's because not much time is spent driving at 50 mph, you're either accelerating (using lots of energy) or decelerating. The olive-colored dots represent medians for speeds where there is a lot of data.

From the olive dots, efficiency at 60 mph and 80 mph (following someone at a sensible distance) was similar.

It's this kind of data that makes me say that puttering along alone like a slowpoke may not be better than driving faster following a giant SUV or pickup truck.

[For this anonymous driver, the following the flow of traffic mean exceeding the speed limit. Tut tut!]
 

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I arrived at Primm/Whiskey Pete’s about one hour later than planned due to the aforementioned abrupt uturn at Baker. The free ChargePoint L2 was available so I connected during my casino respite. Well that respite turned to be longer than anticipated so after I found Ben’s long lost brothers and ate a comp meal at the iHop, back on the road to Baker. ChargePoint gave me 28kWH for free. Thank you Whiskey Pete’s!
 

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Night charging at Baker. I finally got Janus to work. I think the problem was the cable was so thick and bulky that the plug became twisted in my chargeport but when I adjusted it a little, Janus was able to initialize.
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This time I avoided Del Taco and just sat in my Bolt. I’m glad I did. I was able to observe the step down in real time. Basically below 50%, charge rate was at 54kWH.

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At approximately 51%, charge rate dropped to 38 kWH.
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At approximately 70%, charge rate dropped again to 23kWH. At that point I had 147 miles so I disconnected.
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It seems evident that the most method of DCFC is to use it up to 50% especially with EVGo since they charge by the minute. Not the case with ChargePoint which charges by the kWH.

In hindsight, even though Janus was rated at 350kWH, it was not a benefit because my Bolt only accepted 54 kWh at max charge speed.
 

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When I arrived in Victorville, which is the top of the descent in the graph I posted earlier, I only had 28 miles range with 31 to go. Since this was my first time on this trip, I was not sure I would make it home so I stopped for a quick top off at the EVgo at Victorville mall. It is located in the back alley behind JC Penny. There is a homeless encampment by the loading dock so beware.

This EVgo charged at 40 kWh because I was at 10%.
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I charged up to 45 miles range and left. It turns out I did not need it because the downhil descent gave me enough regen to pull into my garage at 11:15 with 38 miles range left.

Cost summary analysis to follow.
 
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