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I had one last week. In an anti-EV argument, this guy segued to talking about solar panels and said this:
"it's impossible for solar panels to create more energy than it takes to make them, first law of thermodynamics,you can't get out more than you put in.... Same as windmills, same as batteries, same as everything.... You need to stop drinking the coolaid mate"

How can you have a discussion with someone who is that clueless?
 

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He gets the goofiest look on his face and says, "well, that's not fair." I said, "Why, because they're not giving you free gas?" :D He told me that if Hy-Vee was giving away free electricity everyone must be paying for it in the grocery prices even though they aren't using it if they drive an ICE. I mean, I guess he has a point, but it also wouldn't surprise me if Hy-Vee gets enough extra business because of those chargers to not have to build it into their grocery prices...
Unfortunately, he's not the only one who thinks that way.
 
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