Take a look at the Aptera .... not exactly a direct competitor to Bolt, but at $25K with 250 mile range, fascinating

atc98092 said:

500 miles is likely the absolute limit anyone would drive in a day, expect for a few diehard road warriors. When I was looking at a cross country trip to take a job detail a number of years ago, 5-600 miles was the most I was planning for. Government rules only require around 350 miles a day to be considered a full day's travel. A 500 mile car would likely be 400 miles under worst case weather/road conditions. Everyone is going to have to stop every so often for a bathroom break, and likely a food stop as well. Even travelling alone I was figuring on stopping every 2-3 hours, even if only for a quick stop. The car I was planning to take at the time had about a 500 mile range at freeway speeds (Niro PHEV).

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That sounds about right for one driver. Tag team can drive forever.

The longest I recall driving in a day was Chula Vista to Campbell CA, which is right about there at ~500 miles. I remember it being excruciating getting through the general LA area, but otherwise just a lot of driving. I stopped once to fuel and grab a bit to eat while driving, and the trip was just about8 hours.

I was in my thirties then, and I was on the verge of having a headache.

No horse, I just think it’s pretty good to see a range like that. I have zero interest in an aptera, I would rather go open on a CanAm Spyder 3-wheeler. Can’t split lanes or anything, but those are a comfortable ride.

I did my house to Las Vegas on the ‘07 BMW K1200gt I sold about a year ago. 470 miles. I took stops when I felt like stopping, and I still made it in under 9 hours, and I was beat from being in the wind for that long. That’s a marathon day for any touring bike, and a K12gt is a sport tourer. But it was made for the autobahn, and will cruise comfortably at 100+ all day if you can avoid the law. I put the windscreen all the way up and sit in a engineered air bubble with almost no buffeting from the front. Luckily no major side wind; that is what will wear a motorcycle rider out.

I went on the beemer forum to brag and another guy just did almost 600 👀

I was beat and stayed a day to pull handles before going on to the Grand Canyon and eventually Carlsbad Caverns NM. A 2-week personal vacation and bucket list ride. It was awesome 😎

atc98092 said:

My first car back in 1970 was a '63 Impala SS. Chrome wheels, and tuck and roll on the rear window deck. Other than that, I think it was stock. 327, 4 speed, no power windows, seat, steering or brakes. That car would be worth a bundle today.

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About $65-70k with low mileage and cherry. I had to see what Israel’s is worth.




I had a 1945 Chevy half-ton I bought at an unannounced auction for the only bid of $100 in 1970. It was a war special issue truck belonging to the Palo Alto Fire Dept, and was very faded red, so my dad and I sprayed it with banana yellow Emron and I drove it to high school.

OHV straight 6, 4-speed floor shifter w/granny low first gear, a tilt-out windshield and dual side opening hoods, and zero chrome. We chromed a few parts like the grille and door handles. It had no turn signals, one brake light, and the gas tank was behind the seat in the cab ☠

It was screaming rpm at a 60 mph top speed, and got ~10 mpg at best. I sold it for $300 in 72, and bought a used ‘64 MG Midget for $100 more.

Cars were very cheap back then. A brand new Vette was about $3500-4000 back then. And that was expensive 🤑

Everyone always said after I told them it was a ‘45: ‘No way. It’s a 41 or a 46. There is no 45.” At a Chevrolet dealership no less. So I had to school them. They check the VIN and say ‘well I‘ll be…’

Looked like this except all yellow with a wood push bumper in front:



I wish I had it now somehow, but I couldn’t collect anything in my disjointed life. That’s a commitment by a perfectly pathed financial stability type person, not me.