[GJETSON]

I would have to look up the capacity of the 1000 mile battery, but isn’t it like 60-70 kWh? Or less? The Cd is .19?

They are talking about a 100 kWh battery for that range....and a modified chassis. The smallest 25kWh makes the most sense, for a vehicle like this. For the vast majority of buyers, this is going to replace a sportscar/motorcycle/maxi-scooter/small commuter.

 

[redpoint5]

500 miles is likely the absolute limit anyone would drive in a day, expect for a few diehard road warriors. When I was looking at a cross country trip to take a job detail a number of years ago, 5-600 miles was the most I was planning for. Government rules only require around 350 miles a day to be considered a full day's travel. A 500 mile car would likely be 400 miles under worst case weather/road conditions. Everyone is going to have to stop every so often for a bathroom break, and likely a food stop as well. Even travelling alone I was figuring on stopping every 2-3 hours, even if only for a quick stop. The car I was planning to take at the time had about a 500 mile range at freeway speeds (Niro PHEV).

I've done 1,000+ days maybe a dozen times in my life, with perhaps the longest around 1,200. 500 miles is very comfortable for me. The furthest I have to travel for work (usually) is 800 miles, which starts to get uncomfortable.

I probably stop every 4 hours which is a max of about 300 miles. This is why I say that even for someone like me who doesn't want to waste time traveling, a 500 mile EV that can recharge super quick would be perfectly suitable. 1,000 mile range would be at least twice as much as I could practically use even if planning a 1,000 mile trip. I might be hardcore, but even I don't pee in a bottle, and like to stop at Subway for lunch.

 

[Packard V8]

The ride quality is going to be so poor that nobody is going to travel 1000 miles except for a stunt to prove it can be done.

The guy with the sport bike avatar is certainly an expert on poor ride quality, cramped positions and the futility of taking one on road trips. BTDT(many years ago)NA.

But agree, my younger self would have been hot for an Aptera, but not as a road trip car.

jack vines

 

[atc98092]

I've done 1,000+ days maybe a dozen times in my life, with perhaps the longest around 1,200.

And you're the road warrior exemption I referred to...

 

[redpoint5]

Furthest ride I've ever done on the sport bike was 250 miles in about 5 hours.

My F4i is even more comfy than modern sport bikes in that the riding position is more upright.

I've done maybe 10 hour days on a CRF450 in Peru, but those are upright.

 

[NortonCommando]

I've done 1,000+ days maybe a dozen times in my life, with perhaps the longest around 1,200. ...

I don't know... That sounds dangerous to me.
How did you stay awake for that many hours??? You don't have to answer.....

 

[redpoint5]

I don't know... That sounds dangerous to me.
How did you stay awake for that many hours??? You don't have to answer.....

That's only 16 hours of driving. People typically are awake 16 hours per day.

I'm naturally a night person too, and if I'm engaged in something interesting like listening to a podcast, staying awake is no problem. If I do get drowsy, there's always caffeine.

 

[atc98092]

16 hours are driving is far more tiring than simply being awake for 16 hours. I wouldn't want to drive that long.

 

[redpoint5]

16 hours are driving is far more tiring than simply being awake for 16 hours. I wouldn't want to drive that long.

I enjoy it. Also, around here the roads curve, so it's not boring droning on straight for hours on end.

 

[Martin D]

500 miles is likely the absolute limit anyone would drive in a day, expect for a few diehard road warriors. When I was looking at a cross country trip to take a job detail a number of years ago, 5-600 miles was the most I was planning for. Government rules only require around 350 miles a day to be considered a full day's travel. A 500 mile car would likely be 400 miles under worst case weather/road conditions. Everyone is going to have to stop every so often for a bathroom break, and likely a food stop as well. Even travelling alone I was figuring on stopping every 2-3 hours, even if only for a quick stop. The car I was planning to take at the time had about a 500 mile range at freeway speeds (Niro PHEV).

That sounds about right for one driver. Tag team can drive forever.

The longest I recall driving in a day was Chula Vista to Campbell CA, which is right about there at ~500 miles. I remember it being excruciating getting through the general LA area, but otherwise just a lot of driving. I stopped once to fuel and grab a bit to eat while driving, and the trip was just about8 hours.

I was in my thirties then, and I was on the verge of having a headache.

No horse, I just think it’s pretty good to see a range like that. I have zero interest in an aptera, I would rather go open on a CanAm Spyder 3-wheeler. Can’t split lanes or anything, but those are a comfortable ride.

I did my house to Las Vegas on the ‘07 BMW K1200gt I sold about a year ago. 470 miles. I took stops when I felt like stopping, and I still made it in under 9 hours, and I was beat from being in the wind for that long. That’s a marathon day for any touring bike, and a K12gt is a sport tourer. But it was made for the autobahn, and will cruise comfortably at 100+ all day if you can avoid the law. I put the windscreen all the way up and sit in a engineered air bubble with almost no buffeting from the front. Luckily no major side wind; that is what will wear a motorcycle rider out.

I went on the beemer forum to brag and another guy just did almost 600 👀

I was beat and stayed a day to pull handles before going on to the Grand Canyon and eventually Carlsbad Caverns NM. A 2-week personal vacation and bucket list ride. It was awesome 😎

 

[atc98092]

Back in the '70s (my early '20s) three of us drove non-stop to the SF bay area from Seattle. However, I ended up doing the majority of the driving. I could do that then, but no way now. When I was planning my potential drive to DC, I was planning between 10-12 hours a day. But that was 6 years ago, and even now I don't think I could do that much in a day. Old guy needs his rest.

 

[TimSFL]

The longest I recall driving in a day was Chula Vista to Campbell CA, which is right about there at ~500 miles. I reme

Drove from Buffalo to Miami non stop. Like 22hrs?
I picked up a hitchhiker and had him drive.

 

[MisterJJ]

The longest I recall driving in a day was Chula Vista...

Chula Vista?!? I lived most of my life there. We're like brothers.

 

[redpoint5]

Chula Vista?!? I lived most of my life there. We're like brothers.

Careful, or you'll go back on ignore

 

[Martin D]

Chula Vista?!? I lived most of my life there. We're like brothers.

Sister of my ex and my brother-in-law lived there back in the day. He was a Navy private contractor (after several stints, and wasstationed at the SD Naval air station for awhile. I visited Tijuana of course. Had an issue with ‘no TP for my bunghole’ (literally) while dining/drinking at a fairly non-shudder looking restaurant/bar. Had to come back for napkins… B-in-law is laughing 😂 “I knew you would be back LOL!” 😉

 

[MisterJJ]

I visited Tijuana

Well, it is close. There's a reason that the nickname for Chula Vista is Chulajuana. My wife says I'm not really a white guy because I grew up in Chula Vista and married a Hispanic.

 

[Martin D]

Careful, or you'll go back on ignore

I got my 👀 on you Redpoint don’t be stirring up the 💩

I have you going on about ‘here’s what I do that nobody asked anyone about but I love to over-share’, while @MisterJJ just likes to over-rub people’s foe-paws (wrong avatar: you want Nelson (“Haw-Haw…”)

Guess who is going to go on ignore first?

👀 (😏)

 

[Martin D]

Well, it is close. There's a reason that the nickname for Chula Vista is Chulajuana. My wife says I'm not really a white guy because I grew up in Chula Vista and married a Hispanic.

Do you have a black mustache and a sombrero?
No, seriously though, I bet you can speak Spanglish?

I think I have something wrong with me, because after working with almost no one but our brothers from the heritage south of us, sitting in the lunch room with the guys, and I don’t mind that the conversation is in Spanish, but I still always know that they are talking about me when they crack a joke, start laughing, and glance at me furtively…

! Cuidado… el jefe podria entender mas de lo que dice ! (Silencio)

😉

 

[MisterJJ]

I bet you can speak Spanglish?

Oh, I love making up Spanglish words just to get my wife riled up. In fact, my wife said that I wasn't "fully" Anglo so I said "Okay, but I'm a little bit Anglo... then call me Anglo-ito."

 

[redpoint5]

I tell my daughter that after she puts on her pantalones, she needs to find some sockalones.

She's starting Spanish preschool this year, so there's hope for her yet.