Is he informed over any one of us? I would have had a similar opinion up until recently when they began to double down on their delivery dates. I feel like access to batteries could be their biggest Achilles heel but they also just announced a supplier deal with Chery. Can't say I'm too thrilled with that name, but the Chinese can keep parts flowing as well.
It's perfect for long trips. So.... just pull a trailer with little Johnny and all your luggage in it.
Does it? I'm not sure that it does. Again, this is all going off of what they're saying so grains of salt until we see the actual data but if the crumple zone is really built to launch the occupants in an industructible bubble going over whatever it's hitting, I think the majority of cars lose unless its big enough for somehow to get over the Aptera, which, unless it's a semi, it can't. So you're absorbing and transfering force with your crumple zone with the heavier object, losing for certain in that battle, but then the battle is over and you're fine. From a safety perspective after the initial impact you definitely want to be in the roll cage for, you know, the rolling part.
Their first cars were gassers but with amazing MPG figures, correct?
I do apologize, I thought BMS was what people who drove Bolts called TMS, thank you for the clarificationTheir first cars were gassers but with amazing MPG figures, correct?
As for the word BMS, to me that means Managing the battery by controlling Max charge and discharge currents, max Voltages for its SOC range, Cell Balancing, and communicating to displays and other systems, and probably other things I don't understand...
TMS is Thermal management. A separate function.
I think we should start using this distinction.
I don't understand how this car has coolant based TMS and claims to 'use the body frame' as it's heat exchanger. The body is composite material, not a good heat transfer material.
(I've seen experimental aircraft where the coolant lines are bonded to the inside of the aluminum skin as the heat exchanger.)
And if it's painted black, the body is solar heating some of the time. And when operating in 100°F conditions where is the battery pack heat supposed to go?
And when it's -7° what will warm the pack to a decent operating temp?
(We've already questioned if this is a winter capable car on snow covered roads...)
The Bolt and other EV's have a coolant based TMS that is freon cooled and resistance heated.
Isn't this sort of TMS needed for an EV? It is for me to take it seriously.
I mean, the size is the size. I will say that people underestimate the vastness of the cargo capacity, it's larger than any SUV trunk you can buy. I think the cargo area is 29.6 cubic feet which is ungodly for a trunk.Side note: I bought a second 1st Gen Insight after a stint with TDI's.
But when I remembered it doesn't have the cargo space for luggage for two on the way to the airport, it had to go..
What good it an ultra efficient EV two seater if you can't pack for road trips with it?
Maybe a motorcycle trailer?
By the specs and from what I've seen yeah, for certain. I mean it's something we'll get 3rd party confirmation on too well before it times to sign on the dotted line. Here's what their official videos say on it:
It seems like the lift-over would be prohibitive for anything with significant mass. The guy is huffing and puffing putting a 20-25 lb. bike in there. Maybe a large bag could slide in if it had wheels, but once you had the first one in, the second might be a tough fit.
I'm not quite certain how you could look at those videos and conclude that. I'm also not certain how you can fault that car for fitting an adult male's bike with room for what looks like another if you pack it right. We go out and spend thousands to be able to carry bikes and this car can do it right out of the... website.
No, thank you for posting this stuff! I wouldn't have found it without you!
I don't want a 3rd EV....As a backpacker I'm not a huge fan of that tent until I see people actually like it in practice. $600 goes a long way towards an ultralight shelter of the same general proportions. The whole way if you're willing to go sly-nylon. If people like it and it can keep the cabin a certain temp (and importantly, dry) then I'll give it another look. I'm just not a huge fan of going somewhere and then sleeping in or by my car. If my car can get there, there should be walls, otherwise, get me away from where cars go before I pitch camp.No, thank you for posting this stuff! I wouldn't have found it without you!
After seeing these videos I'm now convinced. It's not a Gen 1 Insight behind the seats...
I saw the 'Tent' option also on the site!
I want one now!
Where can I find a list of states that don't require a helmet in 3 wheelers?
All I need is for my Spark EV's pack to go dead before the end of the warranty, (in a few months), and take the buy back from gm. The pack is going strong, unfortunately.
You're a hoot. Feel free to hold a 50 lb. duffel out at arms length for a few minutes.
Don't you have to lift the bike higher to get it on on your roofs? This seems far lower than a truck tail gate, I've never had a concern lifting anything into it, why should I have concerns here? It certainly looks like from what we're being shown 2 duffel bags and 2 carry-ons should fit fine.
You seem obsessed with the whole bike thing. My point wasn't about the bike, it was about lifting heavy luggage into the back, over those wide overhangs. Forget about the bike. I wouldn't use a roof rack for a host of reasons that have been discussed on other threads. I would (and do) use a tray style hitch mounted rack. Which could accommodate 4 bikes. If you need more, use a hangar style. That being said, you're not getting 4 bikes into the Aptera, nor your family of 4. Tossing a light road bike into the Aptera is doable. Wouldn't want to try do that with a 75 lb. e-bike.
Not obsessed with anything (but the car, clearly). I dunno the overhangs don't seem too nuts to me but I'm still in my 40s, so. It really doesn't look any worse than an SUV but who knows until you own it?
