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The debate between automakers and regulators over U.S EV policies reached a fever pitch at the 2015 CAR Management Briefing Seminars.

Two lobby groups representing the major manufacturers passionately told attendees that manufacturers are struggling to meet California's 15 percent EV sales by 2025 mandate. Not to mention the 9 other states who have adopted identical targets.

Countering was Diarmuid O'Connel VP of Business Development at Tesla, who thinks that EV demand could be higher if only the government would make tougher rules for the manufacturers to adhere to in terms of performance and styling. (LOL)

Federal regs state that automakers new vehicle lineups must average 54.4 mpg by 2025. California + 9 have taken it further by setting state level quotas of ZEV vehicles.

Former National Auto Dealer Association President Forrest McConnell compared EV mandates to offering consumers broccoli when they asked for low-calorie doughnuts instead.

The question begs to be asked. Where is the consumer being factored into this pissing match between overlords?
 

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Former National Auto Dealer Association President Forrest McConnell compared EV mandates to offering consumers broccoli when they asked for low-calorie doughnuts instead.
While it would suck to get broccoli when you asked for a donut, I'm not sure I quite understand the parallel. :S
 

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Broccoli is more than the vegetable

While it would suck to get broccoli when you asked for a donut, I'm not sure I quite understand the parallel. :S
Neither did I, but I love Broccoli! And as a trivia, the Italian who brough it to Long Island, NY was Giovanni Broccoli whose son Albert was the producer of most of the first James Bond films (see for yourself the name "Broccoli" on each film/movie). Now his granddaughter Barbara is the producer.

Read more here:
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-07-09/entertainment/ca-5205_1_james-bond-pictures

A liitle off-topic but I wanted to educate how that vegetable came to America.:)
 

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California mandates are partially wrong. The amount of Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles (FCEV) will be much less than what the graph shows. Only Toyota is betting money (most is Federal, BTW) to bring a new vehicle to market that will cost over $40,000 each, and has a limited range compared to a much better and common EV such as the Chevy Volt.

As proof, GM built over a hundred Fuel Cell Chevy Equinox in 2007 and 2008 for testing (some are still running around), and later changed their view to the Volt EREV (Extended Range Electric Vehicle) which was a success and won over thirty awards between 2010 and 2011. Even Consumer Reports posted that it has the highest consumer satisfaction rating of any other American produced vehicle. Now GM will produce the second generation 2016 model, which began selling this month and deliveries next month.

So the graph may predict more FCEV sales, the truth is there will be more hybrids, more EREVs and more BEVs (especially the 2017 Chevy Bolt EV). I see Toyota experiment as an expensive failure, and the worst part is that Toyota is using Federal money!

Here are links relate to the Fuel Cell Chevy Equinox:
http://media.gm.com/media/us/en/gm/news.detail.html/content/Pages/news/us/en/2013/Oct/1022-fc-equinox.html
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2008-chevrolet-equinox-hydrogen-fuel-cell-vehicle-first-drive-review
http://www.wired.com/2008/03/we-drive-the-ch/
http://www.hybridcars.com/chevrolet-equinox-fuel-cell/

So now, anyone can decide who is smarter:GM or Toyota?
 
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