If you go to a Magicdock equipped SC, you don't need any adapters. An adapter pops out already attached to the NACS plug. Very elegant, and, in conjunction with the Tesla app, it works so well that we find ourselves charging only at SC's.
Of course, it depends on where you are and if they have them along your route.

 

You need the Tesla app. Put in your car and if you have adapter or not.
The app has a small video that tells how to use it and when to plug in and start. I use the dash to stop the charger. The button on adapter or cord complains.

a Magicdock equipped SC,

Only about 15% of the local V4 chargers have the adapters unlocked.

 

You need an NCAS to CCS1 adapter. A2Z and Lectron are 2 of the better known brands

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GM offers their model here: Site Maintenance

Technically, Tesla states that you can only use an adapter provided by your car's manufacturer (the one I linked to above). As a practical matter, there's no way for Tesla (or anybody else) to know what adapter you're using. The two commonly recommended ones (besides the GM provided one above) are the A2Z Typhoon Plug (A2Z EV NACS Charger to CCS1 Vehicle | DC | Compatible with Supercharge) and the Lectron Vortex Plus (Lectron NACS to CCS Adapter with Interlock | Vortex Plus | 500A | 1,000V | UL 2252 Certified | Compatible with Tesla Superchargers). Either are fine adapters with many many users in the field - they work great. I personally own the A2Z, have used it, and have been quite pleased with it. Note that the Lectron is UL 2252 certified - one of the few that are. The GM supplied unit (the OEM is Tesla) and the A2Z should eventually - any time now - receive that certification as well.

Please beware - Amazon (and eBay) are flooded with cheapo adapters. Do not trust any of those no-name brands - you're almost literally playing with fire using one of those. Stick to one of the three I linked above and you'll be fine. The A2Z and the Lectron can often be had cheaper with discount codes - just google around and you should find the discount codes out there. A good price on either would be in the $150-$160 range. The GM "official" adapter is widely considered over priced. It's good and well engineered - just comparatively expensive.

Any of these three should work fine assuming you follow directions. They're pretty easy - attach the adapter to the NACS plug, then plug the assembly into the car (don't forget to drop the orange flap on your CCS1 port!). Then start the session using the Tesla app. You will need to install the app, create an account, and put in a credit card before you can charge. In the app you can locate where you are, indicate what charger you're at, and initiate the session (once you've got everything plugged in). It's pretty straight forward and intuitive. It's at least as easy as regular DC fast charging (adapter aside).

 

I was under the impression V4 pedestals have Magic Docks built in.

 

We used several V4 pedestals on our last trip. None had Magic Docks afaik. I didn't look at most of them. If they have Magic Docks, Plugshare will show them as both NACS and CCS1. I went back and checked most of the ones we used and all were NACS.

 

Use this link to find sites with Magic Dock capability:
Magic Dock | Tesla CCS Locations

Given that NACS>CCS1 adapters are now readily available for purchase and that the Tesla network is now mostly open to non-Teslas, I don't see why Tesla would bother to roll out many more Magic Dock stations. The map presently shows only around 30 more Magic Dock sites than the last time I checked (probably about a year ago) so a few more have been built in the last year, but it's a vanishingly small number compared to the overall network. As nifty as the Magic Dock concept was, I don't think it's going to go the distance - developments in the EV space have eliminated the need for Magic Docks.

 

Use this link to find sites with Magic Dock capability:
Magic Dock | Tesla CCS Locations

Given that NACS>CCS1 adapters are now readily available for purchase and that the Tesla network is now mostly open to non-Teslas, I don't see why Tesla would bother to roll out many more Magic Dock stations. The map presently shows only around 30 more Magic Dock sites than the last time I checked (probably about a year ago) so a few more have been built in the last year, but it's a vanishingly small number compared to the overall network. As nifty as the Magic Dock concept was, I don't think it's going to go the distance - developments in the EV space have eliminated the need for Magic Docks.

Thanks for going to the bother. That confirms that none of the V4 pedestals we used were Magic Docks.

Last year I tested the only MD in Florida which happens to be only about 20 or so miles away. And later we used the one in Ruston, LA at that V3 on our way to TX last year.

 

Really depends on where, what and what distance you travel. Are the Magicdocks superflous? To me, not yet.
I'm not doing long trips, just 220 miles RT from N Jersey to Philly and back, once a week.
There are MD's exactly where I might need them, especially when it gets colder.
Am I going to the EA at the WaWa in Bristol (where I used to go)?
Not really because they only had 2 plugs and I might have to wait.
The MD's on Rt 1 at The Shoppes and that Wawa have many more plugs so that's where I go.
If @DandyDon travels in my area and does similar trips, no adapter needed.
Going to hit the road for a cross country trip, yeah, get an adapter.

 

Every V4 has adapter. Most are locked.

Upgraded V3 are mostly unlocked.

 

If it is true they are locked, then they are unavailable, which is no different than not existent, for all intents and purpose. You will need to bring your own adapter.

 

The Tesla app clearly shows ones that need adapter and ones that do not.
If a V4 needs an adapter then you can assume it is locked in. The V3's may or many not be converted but also either have adapter or one can use their own.
The older 150kW and 72kW urban are reported to never be upgraded. You still see a CCS owner complaining.

 

Every V4 has adapter.

This is flat out wrong. Show me one that does and I'll show you ten that don't.



Here are two from the Tesla app.

To save time and room here, I'll provide more from Plugshare.

The Tesla app clearly shows ones that need adapter and ones that do not.

Yes it does. If it says "adapter needed" that doesn't mean "adapter provided." It means you have to bring your own. I know. I've used quite a few of them. Show me a picture of a V4 dispenser with a Magic Dock and I'll stand corrected.

 

Look at the connection between NACS cord and stall. You WILL see the adapter locked flush with molding. When you do access one that is unlocked, you will see what I am taking about.

Rivian owners were some of the first CCS users that were able to use the stalls then within a few days almost all of them were locked. There's a few sites that were shown that someone somehow got a bunch of the adapters out.

 

Now I see why we see things so differently. The new V4 chargers don't have the card readers or Magic Docks. And from what I've read, they turned them off on at least most of the older V4s. I did this screen grab from a recent Youtube video that shows the difference. Every V4 I used was like the one on the right. So, I guess I stand partly corrected.

 

What a coinkidink! I just saw a brand new YT video where a guy used a V4 Magic Dock in Arkansas. So yeah, I'm convinced that they do exist here & there. Plugshare says NACS enabled vehicles with CCS1 compatibility for the MD sites, so even though I don't see any other evidence in the examples I gave, they might just have Magic Docks.

 

You can't use plugshare to find the ones unlocked. Maybe some comments. The only way to be sure is to use the Tesla app and input whether or not you have an adapter or not. I used to put in two bolts. One bolt has an adapter and one bolt doesn't.

A local install has V4 about a mile from V3 site. I had to have the recall for the exploding fire seat belt issue. When I was returning from the dealer I thought I would test the new V4. That day the adapter did come out and I was able to charge successfully as some bolts did need an updated software. I went back like a week later and the adapter was locked.