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Here's a few questions for those who have gone from 2017-2021 to a 2022+ (more specifically premier vs. 2lt)

1. Is interior quality that much better after a few months of ownership? Less creaks and rattles specifically? The scratchy dash of my 2017 is so bad...
2. I love the rearview mirror camera in my 2017... sad it's only available for EUV. What else do you miss from the older version?
3. What else have you noticed that the newer version has that the old doesn't besides power seat and ACC?
4. I don't think the old seats are that bad... are the new seats quite good?

I have sat in an EUV and was able to look inside an EV, but couldn't sit or touch because it was already sold...
 

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The second generation Bolts are vastly improved and in a multitude of ways. I won’t even be able to get to the detail stuff, but I will answer your immediate questions and a few more that you didn’t ask.

1) The overall fit and finish is much nicer in my opinion. Higher quality of finish and particularly the dash. I didn’t have a squeaky interior in the earlier years, and I still don’t. I haven’t experienced creaking or rattling in any location or any other condition than an extremely washboard road that will make anything rattle.

2) I have an EUV premier, so I don’t miss anything. I never cared about the unlocking buttons on the rear doors, so I don’t miss them at all, and I can’t think of anything else that is now gone. I absolutely don’t miss the old shifter and the idiocy of trying to get it into car wash mode. I was initially surprised by how the regen setting also works in reverse, but quickly got used to it. The EUV doesn’t have any aluminum doors or hood, so they feel heavier, but they are actually more traditional in the way they close. They somehow made the EUV quieter than the original EV, and that could be a part of it. I also don’t miss the much less intuitive infotainment system, and I definitely like the HVAC controls much better.

3) The seats are much better than the 2017 and a noticeable improvement over the 2020 as well. The power seats are much more adaptable and the ventilation option is extremely nice for the leather seats. I never feel damp now. The lumbar support is now adjustable, and the overall car is superior for longer trips. I have not become uncomfortable yet in the EUV. The ACC is helpful at times, but it is basically in the same category as the LKA. It only works for some situations, and I will turn it off when a road is curvy so that it doesn’t get false readings from vehicles in other lanes. I will also turn it off when traffic is variable in speed. It also doesn’t recognize that cars are coming to a stop ahead until later than I care to wait for, and then make a harder stop than I also don’t care to have happen. It is good for flat ground but uses more physical brakes than regen to keep speeds down.

4) I already covered the seats. If you like the seats in a 2017 you will find a new level of appreciation for the latest seats. The backrest on the 2017 was all wrong, and the seat bases were too soft, which meant that I could feel the bolsters with my theighs. I absolutely did not like the 2017 seats at all. I thought they should be recalled.

The EUV ride is a subtle but much smoother experience. The noise level is the cabin is lower to a very noticeable level. The general ride is softer and more refined. The “pogo stick” suspension of the EV is gone. I absolutely like the EUV better as a result, and the slightly less acceleration and handling performance is questionable for any significant reason. I actually think that the EUV feels more capable of superior handling on less smooth surfaces, as the suspension keeps the tires hooked-up better than the stiffer EV suspension. Slightly more body lean doesn’t slow anything down other than in the mind.

The new infotainment software is vastly improved. The app format is intuitive and easy to navigate. Much easier.

Did I mention that the new shifter setup is much easier to use? I can go into a car wash now without having to get out and explain to the moron controlling the conveyor to wait for my signal before he engages the thing. I actually stopped going to one particular car wash because of that problem. Now I just press the N button and it’s ready to go.
 

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It's improved so much we actually purchased one. Everything in above post is spot on....
We test drove original Bolt several times and wanted one so bad but couldn't commit due to the seats being really uncomfortable for us and interiors overall cheaper feeling to us.
The new Bolt and Bolt EUV are really nice inside. Not world class materials but now feels more like a regular car. The infotainment system is very good. We had basically the same system in our Cadillac ATS but everything was done thru the touch screen or little touch bars. Hated that part of it. The Bolts have added back physical adjustments for the air conditioning controls which are easy to use and feel great. Love the shift button layout once we got used to it. Having no shift lever helps with that open feeling. We went for the base EUV with the leather package specifically to get the ventilated seats. Can't wait to really test them out in the Phoenix heat. They really addressed all of our turnoffs on the original Bolt. It's now a car that I feel will appeal to a lot more people. Especially the EUV looking more like an SUV. At first we were leaning towards the regular Bolt because of the lower price and slightly better visibility but the EUV ending up appealing to us a little more with ventilated seats.The seats were a big enough improvement we finally bought a Bolt. For me they could still be a little wider. There is room so I don't understand why they couldn't have made them another inch or so in width. They feel slightly strange at the shoulder blade but hopefully will break in some.

We felt like the original Bolt just had to many negatives for us to actually live with. It was very fun to test drive. Felt more hot hatch sporty to me where the EUV is a little more tame. That's okay for us as an everyday vehicle. I am very impressed with the fit and finish so far.
We almost bought a 2022 Bolt EV when they first came out but dealer was being shifty so we walked even though it was a good price. It worked out for us cause a few months later the were added to the battery recall list. With the new lower price we were able to get the EUV with the options we wanted for a slightly lower price.
I just wish they would have left the brake lights where they were in the earlier Bolts. I think the wheels on the original Bolt premier are the best looking stock option. I also prefer the front end of the original Bolt EV over the newer Bolt EV. Not a fan of what they did to lighting area. Looks like Cadillac waterfall styling which I don't care for. That's another reason I prefer the EUV look over the EV. Just a personal preference...ymmv.
 

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The second generation Bolts are vastly improved and in a multitude of ways. I won’t even be able to get to the detail stuff, but I will answer your immediate questions and a few more that you didn’t ask.

1) The overall fit and finish is much nicer in my opinion. Higher quality of finish and particularly the dash. I didn’t have a squeaky interior in the earlier years, and I still don’t. I haven’t experienced creaking or rattling in any location or any other condition than an extremely washboard road that will make anything rattle.

2) I have an EUV premier, so I don’t miss anything. I never cared about the unlocking buttons on the rear doors, so I don’t miss them at all, and I can’t think of anything else that is now gone. I absolutely don’t miss the old shifter and the idiocy of trying to get it into car wash mode. I was initially surprised by how the regen setting also works in reverse, but quickly got used to it. The EUV doesn’t have any aluminum doors or hood, so they feel heavier, but they are actually more traditional in the way they close. They somehow made the EUV quieter than the original EV, and that could be a part of it. I also don’t miss the much less intuitive infotainment system, and I definitely like the HVAC controls much better.

3) The seats are much better than the 2017 and a noticeable improvement over the 2020 as well. The power seats are much more adaptable and the ventilation option is extremely nice for the leather seats. I never feel damp now. The lumbar support is now adjustable, and the overall car is superior for longer trips. I have not become uncomfortable yet in the EUV. The ACC is helpful at times, but it is basically in the same category as the LKA. It only works for some situations, and I will turn it off when a road is curvy so that it doesn’t get false readings from vehicles in other lanes. I will also turn it off when traffic is variable in speed. It also doesn’t recognize that cars are coming to a stop ahead until later than I care to wait for, and then make a harder stop than I also don’t care to have happen. It is good for flat ground but uses more physical brakes than regen to keep speeds down.

4) I already covered the seats. If you like the seats in a 2017 you will find a new level of appreciation for the latest seats. The backrest on the 2017 was all wrong, and the seat bases were too soft, which meant that I could feel the bolsters with my theighs. I absolutely did not like the 2017 seats at all. I thought they should be recalled.

The EUV ride is a subtle but much smoother experience. The noise level is the cabin is lower to a very noticeable level. The general ride is softer and more refined. The “pogo stick” suspension of the EV is gone. I absolutely like the EUV better as a result, and the slightly less acceleration and handling performance is questionable for any significant reason. I actually think that the EUV feels more capable of superior handling on less smooth surfaces, as the suspension keeps the tires hooked-up better than the stiffer EV suspension. Slightly more body lean doesn’t slow anything down other than in the mind.

The new infotainment software is vastly improved. The app format is intuitive and easy to navigate. Much easier.

Did I mention that the new shifter setup is much easier to use? I can go into a car wash now without having to get out and explain to the moron controlling the conveyor to wait for my signal before he engages the thing. I actually stopped going to one particular car wash because of that problem. Now I just press the N button and it’s ready to go.
‘20 EV LT swap to a ‘23 EUV Premiere - I would echo all of this.
 

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If you have a premier then you already have the great audio system, leather seats, rear heated seats etc. I have a 17 Premier and drove a friend's EUV for a week and didn't feel I actually missed much. The seats are better in the EUV but not by much. Yeah it has the newer infotainment etc but I got over the quickly.
The only thing that would have been nice on my bolt is the super cruise.
But other than that, think about what you can get g for your existing Bolt, then ask yourself if the difference is worth taking on that extra payment.
 

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But other than that, think about what you can get for your existing Bolt, then ask yourself if the difference is worth taking on that extra payment.
I am constantly amazed by people who trade cars every few years. I have event tee shirts over 20 years old. (I am wearing one right now, from a 1999 recumbent bike rally in DC. I have a group picture of us at that event, taken in front of the White House front gate. I could literally have hit it with a rock. How the world has changed.) I even have my original wife. Maybe if she left me, and took the Bolt, I'd get an Energica Experia MC.:unsure:
 

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Here's a few questions for those who have gone from 2017-2021 to a 2022+ (more specifically premier vs. 2lt)

1. Is interior quality that much better after a few months of ownership? Less creaks and rattles specifically? The scratchy dash of my 2017 is so bad...
2. I love the rearview mirror camera in my 2017... sad it's only available for EUV. What else do you miss from the older version?
3. What else have you noticed that the newer version has that the old doesn't besides power seat and ACC?
4. I don't think the old seats are that bad... are the new seats quite good?

I have sat in an EUV and was able to look inside an EV, but couldn't sit or touch because it was already sold...
I looked at the Bolt EVs in 2017, and didn't buy one because I didn't like the finish, and the seats were uncomfortable for me.
With that said, I did buy a 2023 Bolt EV 2LT(Not EUV).
1. There are no creaks or rattles. The build quality is very good.
2. No comment on this - The rearview comes up in the center screen, and I like that. I do have the upgraded camera system that shows an overhead view all around the car. But only when in reverse of course. I don't have any clue what could be different in the 2017. But I can't imagine wanting anything more than this.
3. No idea.
4. Like I said above, I didn't like the seats in the 2017 at all. But the new seats are great. Weird I know to base my purchasing decision on how comfortable the seats are, but I didn't buy before, and I did in 2023, for that reason (amongst all the other reasons).
 

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I am constantly amazed by people who trade cars every few years. I have event tee shirts over 20 years old. (I am wearing one right now, from a 1999 recumbent bike rally in DC. I have a group picture of us at that event, taken in front of the White House front gate. I could literally have hit it with a rock. How the world has changed.) I even have my original wife. Maybe if she left me, and took the Bolt, I'd get an Energica Experia MC.:unsure:
Me too actually. I don’t normally change cars except when I buy one and then they tell me that the battery might explode for no good reason. So I call and ask what they are going to do about it. Then they give me my money back so I buy a brand new one that doesn’t have the problem. And they just happen to have it on sale, so it actually doesn’t cost me as much for the brand new one!

And then 4 months later, they tell me that the brand new one is actually the same as the old one. So I call again to ask them what they are going to do about this one too, because it has the exact same problem. So they give me a brand new and improved version and it only costs me about $700. I never told them what to do, they just did it.

So I started with a used one and ended up with a much newer one that hasn’t cost me much of anything. These are the best cars ever! I hope that this new one stays good, because I like it the best of the 3 without question.

I used to have a Led Zeppelin T-shirt that was tie-dyed that lasted about 5 years more than when I probably should have retired it, but it had sentimental value. I am hoping that the EUV will also have the same effect, because I am getting very attached to Bugs the EUV. Ventilated seats are no longer optional for my cars. It’s really that important 😀
 

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The second generation Bolts are vastly improved and in a multitude of ways. I won’t even be able to get to the detail stuff, but I will answer your immediate questions and a few more that you didn’t ask.

1) The overall fit and finish is much nicer in my opinion. Higher quality of finish and particularly the dash. I didn’t have a squeaky interior in the earlier years, and I still don’t. I haven’t experienced creaking or rattling in any location or any other condition than an extremely washboard road that will make anything rattle.

2) I have an EUV premier, so I don’t miss anything. I never cared about the unlocking buttons on the rear doors, so I don’t miss them at all, and I can’t think of anything else that is now gone. I absolutely don’t miss the old shifter and the idiocy of trying to get it into car wash mode. I was initially surprised by how the regen setting also works in reverse, but quickly got used to it. The EUV doesn’t have any aluminum doors or hood, so they feel heavier, but they are actually more traditional in the way they close. They somehow made the EUV quieter than the original EV, and that could be a part of it. I also don’t miss the much less intuitive infotainment system, and I definitely like the HVAC controls much better.

3) The seats are much better than the 2017 and a noticeable improvement over the 2020 as well. The power seats are much more adaptable and the ventilation option is extremely nice for the leather seats. I never feel damp now. The lumbar support is now adjustable, and the overall car is superior for longer trips. I have not become uncomfortable yet in the EUV. The ACC is helpful at times, but it is basically in the same category as the LKA. It only works for some situations, and I will turn it off when a road is curvy so that it doesn’t get false readings from vehicles in other lanes. I will also turn it off when traffic is variable in speed. It also doesn’t recognize that cars are coming to a stop ahead until later than I care to wait for, and then make a harder stop than I also don’t care to have happen. It is good for flat ground but uses more physical brakes than regen to keep speeds down.

4) I already covered the seats. If you like the seats in a 2017 you will find a new level of appreciation for the latest seats. The backrest on the 2017 was all wrong, and the seat bases were too soft, which meant that I could feel the bolsters with my theighs. I absolutely did not like the 2017 seats at all. I thought they should be recalled.

The EUV ride is a subtle but much smoother experience. The noise level is the cabin is lower to a very noticeable level. The general ride is softer and more refined. The “pogo stick” suspension of the EV is gone. I absolutely like the EUV better as a result, and the slightly less acceleration and handling performance is questionable for any significant reason. I actually think that the EUV feels more capable of superior handling on less smooth surfaces, as the suspension keeps the tires hooked-up better than the stiffer EV suspension. Slightly more body lean doesn’t slow anything down other than in the mind.

The new infotainment software is vastly improved. The app format is intuitive and easy to navigate. Much easier.

Did I mention that the new shifter setup is much easier to use? I can go into a car wash now without having to get out and explain to the moron controlling the conveyor to wait for my signal before he engages the thing. I actually stopped going to one particular car wash because of that problem. Now I just press the N button and it’s ready to go.
I am constantly amazed by people who trade cars every few years. I have event tee shirts over 20 years old. (I am wearing one right now, from a 1999 recumbent bike rally in DC. I have a group picture of us at that event, taken in front of the White House front gate. I could literally have hit it with a rock. How the world has changed.) I even have my original wife. Maybe if she left me, and took the Bolt, I'd get an Energica Experia MC.:unsure:
I'm not for trading cars unless my needs aren't met with the current car, or if it's financially responsible. That being said, the Bolt ev fits my needs very well, if I need more space I have an SUV.

With trade in value and the possible tax rebate I can get a brand new Bolt for only a few thousand. Resale on a 2023 with 35k less miles than my 2017 will likely be a few thousand higher in a few years time. Also having a nicer interior is a plus. Can't argue with the piece of mind that a bumper to bumper warranty brings either. Financially, it makes sense to me. I don't have a payment on my current Bolt and won't on a brand new one.
 

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If you have a premier then you already have the great audio system, leather seats, rear heated seats etc. I have a 17 Premier and drove a friend's EUV for a week and didn't feel I actually missed much. The seats are better in the EUV but not by much. Yeah it has the newer infotainment etc but I got over the quickly.
The only thing that would have been nice on my bolt is the super cruise.
But other than that, think about what you can get g for your existing Bolt, then ask yourself if the difference is worth taking on that extra payment.
After the tax credit the difference i should get on trade vs msrp isn't much different. Especially considering the possibility of $500 ev go credit, bumper to bumper warranty, and increased resale value. Won't have a payment either, just going to pay the difference in cash.
 

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I looked at the Bolt EVs in 2017, and didn't buy one because I didn't like the finish, and the seats were uncomfortable for me.
With that said, I did buy a 2023 Bolt EV 2LT(Not EUV).
1. There are no creaks or rattles. The build quality is very good.
2. No comment on this - The rearview comes up in the center screen, and I like that. I do have the upgraded camera system that shows an overhead view all around the car. But only when in reverse of course. I don't have any clue what could be different in the 2017. But I can't imagine wanting anything more than this.
3. No idea.
4. Like I said above, I didn't like the seats in the 2017 at all. But the new seats are great. Weird I know to base my purchasing decision on how comfortable the seats are, but I didn't buy before, and I did in 2023, for that reason (amongst all the other reasons).
The gen 1 premier got a rearview mirror that was a screen that had a wide angle view behind you. Vastly improved view over standard mirror. You could toggle this on or off. This is different from backup camera/360 camera used only in reverse.

Thanks for your input though!
 

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After the tax credit the difference i should get on trade vs msrp isn't much different. Especially considering the possibility of $500 ev go credit, bumper to bumper warranty, and increased resale value. Won't have a payment either, just going to pay the difference in cash.
That is absolutely the smartest way to buy a new car. And there’s a very special feeling when you are driving a brand new car and you have the clear title at home 👍
 

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(Updated 1/28) Used to have a 2018 Premier, now have a 2023 EV 2LT. Here are what I consider regressions (roughly in decreasing order of importance):
  • No Rear door unlock buttons - if you use them, they're extremely handy
  • Rear seats aren't heated.
  • No Camera-in-mirror
  • 2022+ rear lights design is worse IMO - but not having brake and indicators on the tail lights is just plain terrible.
  • IMO, Chevy took a pretty unusable center console and somehow made it much more unusable in 2022+.
    • I liked the original shifter and the ability to toggle between D & L. Now there's a bunch of buttons that are impossible to use by feel - have to look down - and take up more space. Heck, the D/L button is flush and indistinguishable from the console.
    • The new console has a bunch of homogenous buttons, it's basically impossible to tell them apart by feel. The location/size of the sports mode/traction/lane-keep-assist buttons is plain dangerous. Why is the heated steering wheel not on the steering wheel?
    • FYI - center armrest no longer moves, no tray in space under center armrest (this you can buy).
  • Front camera doesn't automatically come on while parking, this worked in the previous version. And seriously, just give us a dedicated camera button - there's literally an unused button in the console
  • Front console - I really like the original Bolt's white/grey colour combination & design, the new one is plain and boring.
  • Same with seats colour scheme - just plain & dark (with not-very-strong interior lights)
  • Regen in reverse feels weird but can be worked with.
  • The extra-regen steering wheel button is smaller and located above its previous location. The new location takes some getting used to.
  • Worse main infotainment screen - the split view in the old EV was nice. The overall infotainment system is better though.
  • Apparently no led turn signals on the side mirrors.
  • No roof rails.
Comparison of Old and New Bolts in my Family has a good comparison.

Things the 2022+ EV 2LT has added compared with 2017: ACC, Driver PowerSeat, HD Rearview camera, Sticky 'L' setting, better seats, wireless carplay (surprisingly, this is the biggest improvement for me)
The EUV lost me when it added 6 inches to the car for "looks" and rear seats instead of the trunk - I'm still in disbelief.
 

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I'm still awaiting a 2023 EV 2LT, used to have a 2018 Premier. But having compared them extensively, here are what I consider regressions (roughly in decreasing order of importance).
  • No Camera-in-mirror
  • No Rear door unlock buttons - if you use them, they're extremely handy
  • Rear seats aren't heated.
  • IMO, 2022+ rear lights design & brake functionality are worse.
  • IMO, Chevy took a pretty unusable center console and somehow made it even more unusable in 2022+. I liked the original shifter and the ability to toggle between D & L, uncertain how buttons will feel. FYI - center armrest no longer moves, no tray in space under center armrest (this you can buy).
  • Regen in reverse felt very weird when I tested it.
  • Front console - I really like the original Bolt's white/grey colour combination & design, the new one is plain and boring.
  • Same with seats colour scheme - just plain & dark.
  • No roof rails.
  • Apparently no led turn signals on the side mirrors.
Comparison of Old and New Bolts in my Family has a good comparison.

Things the 2022+ EV 2LT has added compared with 2017: ACC, PowerSeats, HD Rearview camera, Sticky 'L' setting, better seats.
The EUV lost me when it added 6 inches to the car for "looks" and rear seats instead of the trunk - I'm still in disbelief.
Some of these differences are going from the Premier trim to the 2LT trim, not necessarily going from 2017 to 2023.
 

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I'm still awaiting a 2023 EV 2LT, used to have a 2018 Premier. But having compared them extensively, here are what I consider regressions (roughly in decreasing order of importance).
  • No Camera-in-mirror
  • No Rear door unlock buttons - if you use them, they're extremely handy
  • Rear seats aren't heated.
  • IMO, 2022+ rear lights design & brake functionality are worse.
  • IMO, Chevy took a pretty unusable center console and somehow made it even more unusable in 2022+. I liked the original shifter and the ability to toggle between D & L, uncertain how buttons will feel. FYI - center armrest no longer moves, no tray in space under center armrest (this you can buy).
  • Regen in reverse felt very weird when I tested it.
  • Front console - I really like the original Bolt's white/grey colour combination & design, the new one is plain and boring.
  • Same with seats colour scheme - just plain & dark.
  • No roof rails.
  • Apparently no led turn signals on the side mirrors.
Comparison of Old and New Bolts in my Family has a good comparison.

Things the 2022+ EV 2LT has added compared with 2017: ACC, PowerSeats, HD Rearview camera, Sticky 'L' setting, better seats.
The EUV lost me when it added 6 inches to the car for "looks" and rear seats instead of the trunk - I'm still in disbelief.
Wow, thanks for laying it out. I had found these things all from multiple sources, but like how you lay them out. I might add toyoyr list that the 2022+ gives a more premium feeling, yet muted interior, better touch screen including software/user experience, updated front end, less "chrome" (yay!). But you also lose out on the handy rear camera sprayer. Love that thing in the winter!
 

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Some of these differences are going from the Premier trim to the 2LT trim, not necessarily going from 2017 to 2023.
I don't know what this means :). This is a highest-trim 2017EV to highest-trim 2022+EV (not EUV) comparison as OP asked for. That's 2017 EV Premier to 2022+ EV 2LT, there is no Premier trim for the 2022+ EV.

the 2022+ gives a more premium feeling, yet muted interior, better touch screen including software/user experience, updated front end, less "chrome" (yay!). But you also lose out on the handy rear camera sprayer.
Indeed. Agree with more premium feeling and probably touch screen experience. Personally, I like chrome, and prefer the quirky interior over the muted one. I didn't know the rear camera sprayer was gone, that'll be missed!
 
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